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From Dain Sundstrom <>
Subject Re: velocity-based debug console
Date Sun, 15 Feb 2004 19:24:04 GMT
I think we need a new naming convention.  The console-<type> was 
designed with the idea that we would have a single console of each type 
(e.g., console-web, console-gui, console-cli).  Now the new stuff is 
not a management console, just a debug tool, so console-<type> doesn't 
really fit.  Instead debug-web, would fit better, unfortunately that 
name implies it is a debug tool for web applications, which it 
definitely is not.  This is why I think we need a new naming 

Also Jeremy suggested the other day that we put these modules into a 
new applications "modules-tree" (e.g. geronimo/modules/console-web 
becomes geronimo/applications/console-web/).  Another idea is to use a 
two level deep tree (e.g. geronimo/modules/console-debug becomes 

What ever we decide, I think we need to readdress the naming convention 
for applications.


On Feb 14, 2004, at 8:43 PM, n. alex rupp wrote:

> Maybe call it "console-debug"?
> That would logically follow all of the other efforts in this vein.
> Looking forward to trying it out.  ; )
> --
> N. Alex Rupp
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Geir Magnusson Jr" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 7:19 AM
> Subject: velocity-based debug console
>> Dain wanted to convert the existing console-web webapp from JSP to
>> Velocity.  I took that on and in the tiny bits of time I've had
>> available over the last 2 days, the basic thing is working.
>> Like N. Alex's console-web, it shows a list of all mbeans, and you can
>> click to get attributes and such for the mbean.  The difference is 
>> that
>> it's velocity based, very simple, and artistically challenged.  I
>> didn't want to spend time on art before we thought more on how things
>> should be structured, and because I'm pretty bad at it.
>> I have a few ideas on what to change, but I wanted to get it in so
>> others could play and comment.  Also, I know that this isn't meant to
>> be the console, but rather a 'debug tool', and want input on what to 
>> do
>> with it.
>> So, should I check in as a new module?  'debug-tools' maybe?  For now,
>> it will parallel console-web in structure, but other debug tools can 
>> be
>> added over time.  Let me know...
>> geir
>> -- 
>> Geir Magnusson Jr                                   203-247-1713(m)

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