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From David Jencks <da...@coredevelopers.net>
Subject Re: velocity-based debug console
Date Tue, 17 Feb 2004 17:03:18 GMT

On Tuesday, February 17, 2004, at 07:24 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:

> ok- how about we punt on the A/B/C and just do
>
> /geronimo/applications/jmx-debug-web

that would be excellent.

thanks
david jencks

>
> or such?
>
> On Feb 16, 2004, at 6:21 PM, David Jencks wrote:
>
>>
>> On Monday, February 16, 2004, at 02:55 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 16, 2004, at 5:03 PM, David Jencks wrote:
>>>
>>>> <howl of protest>I would rather you used one less level so we don't

>>>> have to rewrite all of top level maven.xml to include it in the 
>>>> normal build. </howl of protest>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Why would you have to rewrite?
>>
>> It might not be as bad as I fear, but currently maven.xml is designed 
>> to build sub projects in ./A/B  (A == specs, modules, B== connector, 
>> kernel, etc).  adding another "A" type is trivial.  Adding another 
>> layer (/A/B/C) will take some study to do.
>>
>> thanks
>> david jencks
>>>
>>>
>>>> david jencks
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, February 16, 2004, at 01:53 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If no one objects then, I'm going to go with :
>>>>>
>>>>> /geronimo/applications/console/jmx-debug
>>>>>
>>>>> and get things in there and working so others can play.  Right 
>>>>> now, it's just read-only, but still vaguely useful.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll wait a bit for any agreement or howls of protest.
>>>>>
>>>>> geir
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 15, 2004, at 11:09 PM, n. alex rupp wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> We've got the following:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CLI console
>>>>>> Swing console
>>>>>> Web console
>>>>>> JMX debugging console
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So perhaps we should have:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /geronimo/applications/console/cli
>>>>>> /geronimo/applications/console/swing
>>>>>> /geronimo/applications/console/web
>>>>>> /geronimo/applications/console/jmx-debug
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can they all be classified as applications?  I know the two web 
>>>>>> apps can--if the
>>>>>> other two can as well I'm game for an "applications" branch : ) 

>>>>>> We should also
>>>>>> consider how to name the  .WAR files for the two web applications

>>>>>> in this list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess "jmx-debug.war" and "server-management.war" might work 
>>>>>> out.  So you'd
>>>>>> have "...8080/jmx-debug/" and "...8080/server-management/"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm happy with however you guys decide to name these, as long as

>>>>>> they make some
>>>>>> logical sense to the users and aren't any more verbose than is 
>>>>>> necessary.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> N. Alex Rupp
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Dain Sundstrom" <dain@coredevelopers.net>
>>>>>> To: <geronimo-dev@incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 1:24 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: velocity-based debug console
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think we need a new naming convention.  The console-<type>
was
>>>>>>> designed with the idea that we would have a single console of

>>>>>>> each type
>>>>>>> (e.g., console-web, console-gui, console-cli).  Now the new 
>>>>>>> stuff is
>>>>>>> not a management console, just a debug tool, so console-<type>

>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>> really fit.  Instead debug-web, would fit better, unfortunately

>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> name implies it is a debug tool for web applications, which it
>>>>>>> definitely is not.  This is why I think we need a new naming
>>>>>>> convention.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also Jeremy suggested the other day that we put these modules

>>>>>>> into a
>>>>>>> new applications "modules-tree" (e.g. 
>>>>>>> geronimo/modules/console-web
>>>>>>> becomes geronimo/applications/console-web/).  Another idea is
to 
>>>>>>> use a
>>>>>>> two level deep tree (e.g. geronimo/modules/console-debug becomes
>>>>>>> geronimo/applications/console/web/).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What ever we decide, I think we need to readdress the naming

>>>>>>> convention
>>>>>>> for applications.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -dain
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Geir Magnusson Jr                                   203-247-1713(m)
>>>>> geir@4quarters.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Geir Magnusson Jr                                   203-247-1713(m)
>>> geir@4quarters.com
>>>
>>
>>
> -- 
> Geir Magnusson Jr                                   203-247-1713(m)
> geir@4quarters.com
>


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