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From David Jencks <>
Subject Re: velocity-based debug console
Date Sun, 15 Feb 2004 19:56:38 GMT
> geronimo/applications/console-web/ allows the applications to be built 
> with a trivial modification of the maven stuff.

> geronimo/applications/console/web/ requires a lot more fiddling with 
> top level maven.xml.  how many of these applications are we going to 
> support?  I vote for geronimo/applications/console-web/.

(Hope this is intelligible,  mac mail client is acting weird with 
quoting stuff)
david jencks
On Sunday, February 15, 2004, at 11:24 AM, Dain Sundstrom wrote:

> I think we need a new naming convention.  The console-<type> was 
> designed with the idea that we would have a single console of each 
> type (e.g., console-web, console-gui, console-cli).  Now the new stuff 
> is not a management console, just a debug tool, so console-<type> 
> doesn't really fit.  Instead debug-web, would fit better, 
> unfortunately that name implies it is a debug tool for web 
> applications, which it definitely is not.  This is why I think we need 
> a new naming convention.
> Also Jeremy suggested the other day that we put these modules into a 
> new applications "modules-tree" (e.g. geronimo/modules/console-web 
> becomes geronimo/applications/console-web/).  Another idea is to use a 
> two level deep tree (e.g. geronimo/modules/console-debug becomes 
> geronimo/applications/console/web/).
> What ever we decide, I think we need to readdress the naming 
> convention for applications.
> -dain
> On Feb 14, 2004, at 8:43 PM, n. alex rupp wrote:
>> Maybe call it "console-debug"?
>> That would logically follow all of the other efforts in this vein.
>> Looking forward to trying it out.  ; )
>> --
>> N. Alex Rupp
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Geir Magnusson Jr" <>
>> To: <>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 7:19 AM
>> Subject: velocity-based debug console
>>> Dain wanted to convert the existing console-web webapp from JSP to
>>> Velocity.  I took that on and in the tiny bits of time I've had
>>> available over the last 2 days, the basic thing is working.
>>> Like N. Alex's console-web, it shows a list of all mbeans, and you 
>>> can
>>> click to get attributes and such for the mbean.  The difference is 
>>> that
>>> it's velocity based, very simple, and artistically challenged.  I
>>> didn't want to spend time on art before we thought more on how things
>>> should be structured, and because I'm pretty bad at it.
>>> I have a few ideas on what to change, but I wanted to get it in so
>>> others could play and comment.  Also, I know that this isn't meant to
>>> be the console, but rather a 'debug tool', and want input on what to 
>>> do
>>> with it.
>>> So, should I check in as a new module?  'debug-tools' maybe?  For 
>>> now,
>>> it will parallel console-web in structure, but other debug tools can 
>>> be
>>> added over time.  Let me know...
>>> geir
>>> -- 
>>> Geir Magnusson Jr                                   203-247-1713(m)

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