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From: Mariano Kamp <mkamp@gmx.de>
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Subject: Re: new console-swing team
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 20:35:59 +0100
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Hi,

  I am probably blessed by being a late comer and haven't made any bitter=20
experience here before. Not sure if there has been?! Form the sidelines it =
is=20
hard to believe that this discussion is all about the mails from last night=
?!=20

  To me it seems, that the tone of the discussion is way to harsh and the=20
actual subject is just a tiny detail which needs to be worked out. I read=20
that there is nothing preventing a snapshot from being built. It just needs=
=20
to be done in the right way, read delegating the responsibility for it up t=
he=20
chain. If that means to obey to some rules, with the sake of being protecte=
d=20
from being the subject of an individual litigation that seems to be fair=20
enough to me. Actually it sounds like the every day life - being part of=20
something bigger means to accomodate. And in case of the ASF I don't have t=
he=20
feeling that these are unreasonable burdens as opposed to the real life I=20
encounter at my day job. I actually see it the other way around. All the AS=
=46=20
cares for is the overhead. I have' nt seen anything saying how one must=20
develop the code itself. And that is the beef, isn't it.

  On a sidebar you also get the benefits of a community. Without the rules =
it=20
is just a bunch of boxes running cvs, like sf. =20

  I well remember the statements on the list from apache con. How great it =
is=20
to work with brilliant people. That was much more fun to read ;-) I don't s=
ee=20
that the administrational thing is preventing the brilliance thing.

My two euro cents,=20
Cheers,
Mariano
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