Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-geronimo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 71542 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2003 05:26:06 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (208.185.179.12) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 22 Nov 2003 05:26:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 93981 invoked by uid 500); 22 Nov 2003 05:25:38 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-geronimo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 93918 invoked by uid 500); 22 Nov 2003 05:25:37 -0000 Mailing-List: contact geronimo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Reply-To: geronimo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list geronimo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 93891 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2003 05:25:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sweetums.openejb.info) (66.41.17.21) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 22 Nov 2003 05:25:37 -0000 Received: by sweetums.openejb.info (Postfix, from userid 500) id 7BFE31CBC97; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 23:25:29 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 23:25:29 -0500 From: David Blevins To: geronimo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: pmc@incubator.apache.org, "Geir Magnusson Jr." Subject: Re: Unofficial relase for Geronimo Message-ID: <20031122042529.GA14342@sweetums.ce1.client2.attbi.com> References: <2DB6835A-1CA4-11D8-8AF4-000393753936@apache.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2DB6835A-1CA4-11D8-8AF4-000393753936@apache.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 08:27:27PM -0800, Roy T. Fielding wrote: > > This project has done some absolutely amazing things (particularly > >in the past week, preparing the working demo presented at ApacheCon), > >and > >it has an incredible team, and we're certainly open to guidance and > >larger > >participation by existing Apache committers and members, but let's try > >to > >keep it positive. > > And I spent the last eight years building Apache into an organization > that can defend itself and its committers against lawsuits. I will not > allow that to be destroyed by immature projects and impatient > developers. > I can say with total confidence, everyone on the Geronimo team is fully committed to doing things the right way. I think threads like this justify the existence of an incubator as there are still many things we don't know. Please let us know what we can do to get this thread moving in the right direction. -David Just as an FYI, I will be offline for the rest of the evening.