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Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 12:13:08 +0000
Subject: Re: Fw: console-web
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From: James Strachan <james_strachan@yahoo.co.uk>
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FWIW Ryan's points all seem pretty valid to me; I don't see why you're 
recommending he goes off to SF or that his ideas are over-engineered.


On Saturday, November 1, 2003, at 06:22  am, n. alex rupp wrote:

> Ryan,
>
> Let's please keep discussions about this on the list : )
>
> I think your ideas below are overengineered, but you sound like you've 
> given
> it a lot of thought and perhaps the ideas have merit, but they'll best 
> be
> judged when they're backed up with some code.  You might start a 
> project at
> sf.net and build this sucker from the ground up (doesn't seem that 
> you'll
> need to reuse any of the pieces we've got), and when you get it 
> working, we
> can take a look at it and either use it to replace what we've got, or 
> merge
> the two together, using the best parts of each.  Get the web 
> application
> working, and we'll go from there.
>
> I'm working on adding simple functionality like method invocation.  
> Perhaps
> we can join our stuff together somewhere down the line.  You might 
> also look
> into other projects which are building generic libraries for working 
> with
> JMX.  I think Simone Bordet knows of a good one (but I can't remember 
> it for
> the life of me)
>
> Good luck and welcome : )
> --
> N. Alex Rupp
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ryan Sonnek" <ryansonnek@hotmail.com>
> To: <rupp0035@umn.edu>
> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 11:44 PM
> Subject: Re: console-web
>
>
>> ok, here are my ideas.  please let me know if they go against any 
>> design
> you
>> had in mind.
>>
>> 1.  remove html from JSP custom tags.
>> 2.  use JSTL in jsp tags to output lists of JMX services
>> 4.  use xdoclet to generate web.xml and taglib.tld.
>> 3.  refactor majority of code into reusable JMX client for use with 
>> other
>> "consoles".  i think this might work best to add a new module, so 
>> that the
>> console-web module has a dependency on the new module.  this would 
>> allow
> for
>> the taglib.tld to be picked up automatically without having to 
>> specify it
> in
>> the web.xml
>>
>> i think that was pretty much it.  i have not done any development for
>> geronimo, but have gone through the wiki extensively.  what would be 
>> the
>> best way to go about this?  do the development, create a patch, and 
>> submit
>> it to JIRA?
>>
>> if i have questions, should i email you directly, or would the dev 
>> list or
>> wiki be a better communication spot?  Oh, and i wanted to let you know
> that
>> it's great to see other minnesota based J2EE developers!  i'm from 
>> mankato
>> myself, and down here, J2EE is still in it's infancy.
>>
>> Ryan Sonnek
>>
>> ------------
>> "God is the Lord of angels, of men - and of elves."
>> - J.R.R. Tolkien
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: "n. alex rupp" <rupp0035@umn.edu>
>>> To: "ryan sonnek" <wireframe6464@users.sourceforge.net>
>>> Subject: Re: console-web
>>> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:42:10 -0600
>>>
>>> Ryan,
>>>
>>> Go ahead and post your ideas : )
>>>
>>> --
>>> N. Alex Rupp
>
>

James
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