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From "Jesse Beaumont" <>
Subject RE: new console-swing team
Date Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:15:29 GMT
I think you are referring to JSR-198 (168 is the portlet specification).
As for its status, it has been approved, but that's about it.  There
have been no deliverables thus far...more is the pity.


-----Original Message-----
From: Juan Albisu [] 
Sent: 21 November 2003 19:48
Subject: Re: new console-swing team

I prefer java Webstar: I've used a lot and it's really cool

Swing: where you can do everything and make it look easy

I Think there are two "must" plugs to be done: Netbeans and Eclipse.

I remember the "JSR 168 A Standar Extension API for IDE". But I haven't 
seen anything from them

At 10:38 21/11/2003 -0800, you wrote:
>Sonnek, Ryan wrote:
>>[...] Any opinions on applet vs. webstart?
>WebStart, hands down. Developing an applet that is *truely* cross
>involves a great deal of overhead for testing and results in code that 
>has, IMHO, an unacceptable amount of special cases to deal with the 
>irregularities specific to certain OS x OS version x browser x browser 
>version combinations. WebStart, on the other hand, provides a more 
>standard execution environment (plus secure system services that simply

>aren't available to applets). Further, the fact that WebStart will
>byte code on the client means that the user is spared the pain of 
>downloading an applet everytime they want to run the console. If there 
>exists a compelling reason to use an applet over WebStart, I have yet
>see it and would welcome the information.
>P.S. WebStart, no contest.  :-)

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