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From "Matt Kurjanowicz" <mkurj...@cc.gatech.edu>
Subject Re: console design
Date Fri, 21 Nov 2003 04:03:50 GMT
I would like to bring this discussion back to life
Alex: now that you are planning on making the web-console a lot more
modulated, is there any way we could modulate the logic in the console?  To
bring out more of the MVC model?
-Matt K
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sonnek, Ryan" <Ryan.Sonnek@bpc.com>
To: <geronimo-dev@incubator.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 11:00 PM
Subject: RE: console design


> I guess the way I think of it right now is to compare it to Jboss:
> Web console,
> Applet console,
> Eclipse plugin (a personal favorite of mine).
> Maybe these are too functionally different to be considered for developing
a
> "reusable architecture", but I would just like to bring it to the table
for
> discussion now to have an idea of goals/ambitions.
>
> Ryan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sonnek, Ryan [mailto:Ryan.Sonnek@bpc.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 9:48 PM
> To: 'geronimo-dev@incubator.apache.org'
> Subject: RE: console design
>
> I'm not even sure that the client app is needed (thus this thread), but I
DO
> think that it is important IF one is used, that they are functionally and
> visually similar.  As more and more things go into the web console, it
> doesn't make sense for the thick client to "rewrite" to stay current or
vice
> versa.  I understand that JMX does not require the added abstraction, but
> for an enterprise system to have two separate views of the same
information
> and same operation, it does NOT make sense to duplicate the coding effort.
> HTML or Swing or SWT or Twiddle should just be a view overtop of the same
> engine.  I do not know if this kind of thing is even possible (same logic
> with different presentation layers), but I would like to see the duplicate
> effort minimized at best.
>
> Ryan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Kurjanowicz [mailto:mkurjano@cc.gatech.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 8:16 PM
> To: geronimo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: console design
>
> I think a while ago we decided that we weren't going to use some sort of
> middle-api because the JMX and J2EE Mgmt api's were simple enough to use
> (See the wiki about this).  I think that making them functionally
equivilent
> is up to the writer of the console.
>
> -Matt K
> mkurjano at cc.gatech.edu
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Sonnek, Ryan" <Ryan.Sonnek@bpc.com>
> To: <geronimo-dev@incubator.apache.org>
> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 9:12 PM
> Subject: console design
>
>
> > looking at the current implementation of the JMX console, brings some
> > questions to mind.  are there any plan to have an applet/webstart
> > application to interact with geronimo?  if so, i would like to start on
> > integrating the current console and abstracting it for web or client
use.
> i
> > think it would be a good idea to keep them functionally equal, and as
> > similar in use and design as possible.  i'm a big fan of webstart, but
is
> a
> > client app neccesary?  real time stats (server load, statistics, etc)
are
> > best viewed with a thick client IMO.
> >
> > congrats go out to everyone that has worked so hard this week!  it's
> amazing
> > what you guys have accomplished!
> >
> > Ryan
> >
>


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