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From "Matt Kurjanowicz" <mkurj...@cc.gatech.edu>
Subject Re: new console-swing team
Date Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:20:36 GMT
I think that's a good idea - maybe we could use SWT instead of Swing in
general for a GUI console - I've never actually written an eclipse plugin
before, but if it's already in SWT it can't be that hard to convert it to a
plug-in, can it?
Besides, I think that SWT looks better in general - what are the downsides
to using SWT as opposed to Swing?
-Matt

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mariano Kamp" <mkamp@gmx.de>
To: <geronimo-dev@incubator.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: new console-swing team


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> Hi,
>
>   what about an eclipse-plugin? I am currently working on doing a JSR-77
> client for eclipse (will post something on Sunday). I personally favor to
> have the console integrated in the ide. I do understand though, that
eclipse
> is not everybodys choice.
>
> Cheers,
> Mariano
>
> On Friday 21 November 2003 19:11, Matthew David Kurjanowicz wrote:
> > Oh oh, pick me! pick me! :)  I really think that this is a good idea,
and
> > a good alternative (for me developing) to the twiddle comand client.
> > There are a few things there that I've been trying to figure out there
> > that just aren't working dealing with the twiddle cli - such as keeping
> > track of state, etc.  Besides, I have more experience developing swing
> > UI's then CLI interfaces.
> >
> > I'm willing to lead work on a swing console, and hopefully will be able
to
> > extend James' code.  I started looking at it last night and it looks
> > doable.
> >
> > Hoeffenlich geht es gut. (And that's the extent of my memory of HS
Deutsch
> >
> > :) ).
> >
> > -Matt K.
> >
> > > Cool, James.  That's great news.  MVC is perfect for thick-client UIs,
> > > too : ) Now everyone who wants to scratch that itch can do so (ich
habe
> > > es genug für mich gekratzt).
> > >
> > > It sounds like Matt and Ryan are already thinking a lot about this
> > > stuff.  Does one (or both) of them want to lead the effort on
developing
> > > the swing UI?  (I'm sure James will if they won't, and will help them
if
> > > they run across any issues).  There are probably dozens of people on
the
> > > list who want to help with the Swing UI, who have a lot of experience
> > > with UI design or who know JMX like the back of their hand.  If not,
> > > this is a perfect chance for newcomers to get involved (other than
> > > writing unit tests) and learn some new skills.
> > >
> > > Matt and Ryan are both very competent developers and show a lot of
> > > initiative for pushing in this direction : )  If it sounded before
like
> > > I was suggesting that the Geronimo project shouldn't have a swing UI,
I
> > > apologize--you guys should know that wasn't what I was trying to say
> > > (and even if I were, I don't make decisions around here ; )  I never
> > > want to close the door on new ideas or new, useful components to plug
> > > in.  I think that stuff is great.  I was just trying to convey that I
> > > personally specialize in thin client servlet approaches and will stick
> > > with them because it's where I operate most efficiently and can make
the
> > > best use of my time.  I'd probably be more of a hindrance than a
benefit
> > > to skilled a thick-client UI team.
> > >
> > > Again, thanks for the help and the great work, James. Best luck to
Matt
> > > & Ryan on driving the swing effort if they choose to do so.  If they
> > > have specific ideas down the line of ways they could reuse pieces of
my
> > > code and want me to help abstract out bits for their use, I will do
> > > whatever I can to help them. --
> > > N.
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