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From Brian Behlendorf <>
Subject Re: licenses for ObjectWeb components & Apache/OW collaboration
Date Mon, 06 Oct 2003 21:00:24 GMT

That's terrific news, Jean-Bernard.  Thanks!

Geronimo developers: this should encourage you to look at the code
ObjectWeb has implemented for its J2EE server, to see if there are any
places where collaboration would be preferable to reimplementation.  To be
clear, BSD-licensed code from any party may be incorporated into Apache
releases licensed under the Apache license.  I would encourage such
collaboration work to take place wherever the "home" is for such code,
rather than importing the code into Apache's CVS trees and creating (even
unintentionally) an Apache-specific branch.  Perhaps someone could lead a
discussion about the dev & release cycle that accounts for such
externally-developed components.  Be aware that the agreements that cover
your contributions to the ASF would not apply to contributions you'd make
to ObjectWeb components; I don't know if ObjectWeb has contributor
agreements like we do.

I now leave this issue in the capable hands of the Geronimo community.


On Mon, 6 Oct 2003, Jean-Bernard Stefani wrote:
> We (ObjectWeb) owe you a response on possible changes of licenses for
> ObjectWeb components, to further the possibility for collaboration between
> Apache and ObjectWeb.
> I am happy to report that both the ObjectWeb Board and the ObjectWeb
> College of Architects have agreed that, for ObjectWeb components that are
> to be developed collaboratively with the Apache Software Foundation, a
> change of license from LGPL to BSD is encouraged.
> Ultimately, of course, the final responsibility for effecting such a change
> lies with the copyright holders of the source code under consideration.
> For the two cases at hand, namely the JOTM transaction engine and the ASM
> bytecode manipulator, I am happy to report that the respective copyright
> holders are ready to make this change, should the ASF require it.
> As we discussed in previous messages, I believe such a policy meets the
> requirements of the ASF for incorporating ObjectWeb components in its code
> base.
> Best regards,
> Jean-Bernard
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