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From "n. alex rupp" <>
Subject Fw: console-web
Date Sat, 01 Nov 2003 06:22:01 GMT

Let's please keep discussions about this on the list : )

I think your ideas below are overengineered, but you sound like you've given
it a lot of thought and perhaps the ideas have merit, but they'll best be
judged when they're backed up with some code.  You might start a project at and build this sucker from the ground up (doesn't seem that you'll
need to reuse any of the pieces we've got), and when you get it working, we
can take a look at it and either use it to replace what we've got, or merge
the two together, using the best parts of each.  Get the web application
working, and we'll go from there.

I'm working on adding simple functionality like method invocation.  Perhaps
we can join our stuff together somewhere down the line.  You might also look
into other projects which are building generic libraries for working with
JMX.  I think Simone Bordet knows of a good one (but I can't remember it for
the life of me)

Good luck and welcome : )
N. Alex Rupp

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ryan Sonnek" <>
To: <>
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 11:44 PM
Subject: Re: console-web

> ok, here are my ideas.  please let me know if they go against any design
> had in mind.
> 1.  remove html from JSP custom tags.
> 2.  use JSTL in jsp tags to output lists of JMX services
> 4.  use xdoclet to generate web.xml and taglib.tld.
> 3.  refactor majority of code into reusable JMX client for use with other
> "consoles".  i think this might work best to add a new module, so that the
> console-web module has a dependency on the new module.  this would allow
> the taglib.tld to be picked up automatically without having to specify it
> the web.xml
> i think that was pretty much it.  i have not done any development for
> geronimo, but have gone through the wiki extensively.  what would be the
> best way to go about this?  do the development, create a patch, and submit
> it to JIRA?
> if i have questions, should i email you directly, or would the dev list or
> wiki be a better communication spot?  Oh, and i wanted to let you know
> it's great to see other minnesota based J2EE developers!  i'm from mankato
> myself, and down here, J2EE is still in it's infancy.
> Ryan Sonnek
> ------------
> "God is the Lord of angels, of men - and of elves."
> - J.R.R. Tolkien
> >From: "n. alex rupp" <>
> >To: "ryan sonnek" <>
> >Subject: Re: console-web
> >Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 17:42:10 -0600
> >
> >Ryan,
> >
> >Go ahead and post your ideas : )
> >
> >--
> >N. Alex Rupp

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