Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-geronimo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 64114 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2003 15:33:26 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (208.185.179.12) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 16 Sep 2003 15:33:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 6124 invoked by uid 500); 16 Sep 2003 15:33:08 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-geronimo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 5975 invoked by uid 500); 16 Sep 2003 15:33:07 -0000 Mailing-List: contact geronimo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Reply-To: geronimo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list geronimo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 5962 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2003 15:33:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.princetongames.org) (66.250.40.202) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 16 Sep 2003 15:33:07 -0000 Received: from localhost (ammulder@localhost) by www.princetongames.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8GFYPv30601 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2003 11:34:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: www.princetongames.org: ammulder owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 11:34:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mulder X-X-Sender: ammulder@www.princetongames.org To: geronimo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [vote] Aaron Mulder as committer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N While I respect Richard's opinion, and am not offended, I would prefer in general not to see speculation such as "but than again he has been working hard to obtain commit access and doesn't want to piss anyone off before this vote takes place". It's hard to either prove or disprove the implication that one's behavior will change in the future, and I suspect people could make their points equally well based on incidents in the past. Of course, one man's "combative" is another man's "doesn't see eye to eye", but at least we can debate real events. :) Aaron On Tue, 16 Sep 2003, Richard Monson-Haefel wrote: > I'll be perfectly honest: I had reservations about Aaron when he started > posting to the mailing list. He is a smart guy and always takes the > initiative, but I've seem him become combative in the past. He hasn't been > that way on this project, but than again he has been working hard to obtain > commit access and doesn't want to piss anyone off before this vote takes > place. I can't give him a +1 but I can't disregard his contributions to > this project either, so a -1 is inappropriate. > > There. That is honest feedback on a public list. I debated doing this. The > fact that I debated speaking my mind at all, convinced me that private > voting in the PMC is a must. You want honesty in a public forum, then people > are going to be hurt -- or at least offended. I'm sorry, Aaron if this has > offended or embarrassed you in any way. I felt compelled to be honest. > Apparently David Blevins and others feel you deserve commit access ... I > respect there opinions and won't object. > >