Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-geronimo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 424 invoked by uid 500); 26 Aug 2003 17:55:10 -0000 Mailing-List: contact geronimo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Reply-To: geronimo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list geronimo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 244 invoked from network); 26 Aug 2003 17:55:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO msexchange00.multex.com) (204.255.41.71) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 26 Aug 2003 17:55:07 -0000 Received: by msexchange00 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 13:54:57 -0400 Message-ID: <79B184B0417FD41184DB00508BA540B8058C31B9@corpmail01> From: "Cabrera, Alan" To: "'geronimo-dev@incubator.apache.org'" Subject: RE: [i18n] Hardcoded message strings Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 13:54:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N > -----Original Message----- > From: Dain Sundstrom [mailto:dain@coredevelopers.net] > > Again we have the cart way ahead of the horse... > > We need to draw a line. What are we gong to make i18 and what are we > going to leave in english. When are we going to add i18? > > I suggest we come up with a way for us to add i18 later without any > pain now (see my previous message). Further, I suggest we make the > rule that only user displayable messages and log messages > info > support i18, but now Exceptions, debug, or trace. > > We have a huge project in front of us and we should do everything to > make this a fast and enjoyable experience, and I find that editing > messages bundles and working with message formatter to be neither. I > think we should take a long breath and think about a way to make it > easy add this later. I have run into many, many, occasions where developers who have difficulty with English appreciate i18n messages, I am certain that i18n exceptions would be no exception. ;) Maybe we can be defiantly targeted at English speaking developers. :p I want a fast and enjoyable experience too, it does not stop me from writing comments and javadocs or trying to format the code in a legible way. One thing that I know for sure, either Geronimo puts it in early on or, let us not kid ourselves, it will most likely never happen. Regards, Alan ---------------------------------------------------------------- Visit our Internet site at http://www.reuters.com Get closer to the financial markets with Reuters Messaging - for more information and to register, visit Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of The Reuters Group.