Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-geronimo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 56251 invoked by uid 500); 8 Aug 2003 07:40:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact geronimo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Reply-To: geronimo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list geronimo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 56231 invoked from network); 8 Aug 2003 07:40:42 -0000 Received: from adicia.telenet-ops.be (195.130.132.56) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 8 Aug 2003 07:40:42 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by adicia.telenet-ops.be (Postfix) with SMTP id 3E0D137ED5 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2003 09:40:54 +0200 (MEST) Received: from outerthought.org (D5E0039A.kabel.telenet.be [213.224.3.154]) by adicia.telenet-ops.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 751FF37ED3 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2003 09:40:53 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <3F335405.3080702@outerthought.org> Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 09:40:53 +0200 From: Steven Noels Organization: Outerthought User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030312 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: geronimo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] change Reply-To to go to geronimo-dev References: <6D248950-C925-11D7-BFFA-000A95A01192@adeptra.com> <20030807232142.GN18904@lyra.org> In-Reply-To: <20030807232142.GN18904@lyra.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On 8/08/2003 1:21 Greg Stein wrote: > I'm not a fan of reply-to munging. I've seen it do bad things, and I've seen > people accidentally send sensitive, personal info to a list when they meant > to send it to an individual. The "failure mode" of a lack of Reply-To is > much better ("oops, didn't go to the list") than the failure mode of having > it ("oops, I just sent that personal slam to the whole world"). Personaly, I believe it is better that people are always thinking and acting in 'list mode', and have to go through some burden to go into 'private mode'. We shouldn't convenience the list for Jekylls & Hydes. I don't find myself often needing to compose a private reply to a list message, and if so, most usually, I end up wondering why I didn't send it to the list after all, or why I send the message after all, it being a flame, or an alpha-male show-off thing, or doubletalk which doesn't help anyone. Typically, such messages also fall under the two-email-pattern. For newcomers: here's the two-mail-pattern, as coined by Stefano: if you are ready to flame, type away, but don't press the send button immediately. Leave the issue aside for a couple of hours, open up a fresh message composition window, and compose a second reply (don't edit the first one, you have to start from a blank window). Send that one. It really helps! Cheers, -- Steven Noels http://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java & XML Competence Support Center Read my weblog at http://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.org stevenn at apache.org