Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-geronimo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 53497 invoked by uid 500); 7 Aug 2003 13:27:47 -0000 Mailing-List: contact geronimo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list geronimo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 53447 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2003 13:27:46 -0000 Received: from jetty2.inetu.net (HELO jetty.mortbay.com) (209.235.192.112) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 7 Aug 2003 13:27:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 14352 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2003 13:27:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mortbay.com) (gregw@203.45.77.110) by jetty.mortbay.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2003 13:27:47 -0000 Message-ID: <3F32538C.20300@mortbay.com> Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 23:26:36 +1000 From: Greg Wilkins Organization: Mort Bay Consulting User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030704 Debian/1.4-1 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex Blewitt CC: Alan Cabrera , 'Christian Trutz' , geronimo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Which EJB container? Which Web container? References: <30A827BD-C8D2-11D7-B192-0003934D3EA4@ioshq.com> In-Reply-To: <30A827BD-C8D2-11D7-B192-0003934D3EA4@ioshq.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Alex Blewitt wrote: > I also think that whilst some choice is good, too much can be > detrimental. What I'd like out of an EJB server is one that 'Just Works' > and I wouldn't be particularly bothered whether it used Tomcat/Jetty or > OpenEJB/OJB. Nor would I (as an admin) bother about changing it. With respect to the web container, it is my intention to contribute by writing abstract webcontainer and webconnector services. I want to capture 99.999% of the common configuration and management of the web tier in these services - so that you do not need to know what underlying implementation will be (unless you really care). There should be no need to have web container specific configuration in the standard deployment. Services such as distributed sessions, single sign-on, and load balancing management should be able to be written to work with any web container. My first implementation of these will use Jetty, but a Tomcat version I assume will follow if there is call for it. As to what should be the default and what get's certified... I'm way too biased to comment on that. cheers -- Greg Wilkins Phone/fax: +44 7092063462 Mort Bay Consulting Australia and UK. http://www.mortbay.com