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From: "Gareth Bryan" <garethbryan@fastmail.fm>
To: geronimo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 16:44:32 +0100
Subject: Re: User Friendliness
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+1 for this, definately.

However, we should crawl before we can walk: initially we should all
concentrate on junit tests and doc for the seed code.

As soon as that's over, a subgroup like this should be set up.

All too often I see topics like this crop up towards the end of dev
cycles - giving everyone headaches.  If we can get this right from the
start, especially a great web console and ant tasks, we'd be in a great
position.

On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 11:14:12 -0400, "Erin Mulder"
<meara@alumni.princeton.edu> said:
> I'd like to see a subgroup dedicated to the overall user experience
> and would be happy to help out in that area.
> 
> In particular:
> 
> 0) A user web site that draws people in and makes it easy to get started
> 
> 1) Friendly, comprehensive and -free- user documentation
> 2) Working examples of all J2EE and value-added features
> 3) An attractive web console that competes favorably with
> WebLogic/Websphere
> 4) Good command line tools for easy scripting
> 5) Lots of attention to the developer experience, e.g.:
>         - up-to-date DTDs with useful comments
>         - robust hot deploy
>         - useful error messages
>         - preservation of line numbering where possible for EJBs/JSPs
> 
> Cheers,
> Erin Mulder
> 
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  Gareth Bryan
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