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From "Danny Angus" <>
Subject RE: [PATCH] [JavaMail] Created resources directory and copied META-INF contents
Date Mon, 18 Aug 2003 21:50:08 GMT

As an observer, and having admited my interest in JavaMail in geronimo I'm
slightly concerned that there seems to be very little oversight or direction
involved with the JavaMail effort.
Alex is obviously working hard, but I'm concerned that what he's doing may
not be, through no fault of his, the best decision for the project.
I have a couple of reasons for saying this, none of which reflect badly on
Alex, and I want to emphasise that this is not intended to be criticism of
him in any way.

1/ JavaMail differs from most of the other j2ee API's in that it is 80%+
implementation and >20% interfaces, so an ASFL clone is far from trivial,
and represnets a serious investment by the project, one which will have to
be updated and maintained.

2/ Without an active and enthusiastic community (c.f. a lone developer) to
support it it will never be a quality replacement for sun's packages, the
quantity of conformance with Sun's specs and with RFC's required to do the
job properly is significant and (IMO) large.

Given the above I haven't seen anything which indicates that re-writing
javaMail (compared to implementing those areas which are left as interfaces
with the specific intention of being implemented by 3rd parties) is a goal
of this project, or more importantly why it is considered to be a worthwhile

The fact is that this work will require considerable effort and, if it is
done correctly, only ever result in a product virtually indistinguishable
from Sun's original save for the licence.

I'd like to know if this really is a goal of Geronimo or whether the
situation of javaMail could be given more attention before Alex expends too
much more effort on it.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeremy Boynes []
> Sent: 18 August 2003 18:35
> To:
> Subject: RE: [PATCH] [JavaMail] Created resources directory and copied
> META-INF contents
> Applied - but I have questions on the reference to org.apache.commons.mail
> Is this correct? Should this instead be in that implementation?
> --
> Jeremy
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Alex Blewitt []
> > Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 2:01 AM
> > To:
> > Subject: [PATCH] [JavaMail] Created resources directory and copied
> > META-INF contents
> >
> >
> > Here's the JavaMail resources directory (Jar contains
> > specs/javamail/src/resources/META-INF/javamail.default.*)
> >
> > Should also be removed from the specs/javamail/src/java/META-INF
> > directory, but I can't figure out how to generate that as a patch,
> > sorry. :-/
> >
> >

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