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From "Adrian Jackson" <adr...@dynamicweb.co.uk>
Subject RE: J2EE DeploymentManager ( was J2EE deployment verifier)
Date Thu, 14 Aug 2003 12:47:19 GMT
Sounds like something that ought to be on the wiki so that people can
add things/comment easily.

Adrian

-----Original Message-----
From: Weston M. Price [mailto:weston_p@yahoo.com] 
Sent: 14 August 2003 09:36
To: geronimo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: J2EE DeploymentManager ( was J2EE deployment verifier)


Yes, please do post it whenever you get a chance. 

Weston

On Thursday 14 August 2003 11:13 am, klas axell wrote:
> I have started writing a list with all the things that the verifyer 
> has to check in a deployed package. The list contains things as "Is 
> the home interface a sub interface of the EJBHome interface, Is the 
> remote interface a sub interface of the EJBObject interface, Are the 
> create methods in home implemented in the ejb class" and so on. Is 
> this somthing that I should post? The list is not complete but it 
> might be a good starting point for us?
>
> /Klas
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Weston M. Price" <weston_p@yahoo.com>
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 16:46:00 +0000
> To: geronimo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: J2EE DeploymentManager ( was J2EE deployment verifier)
>
> > Yes, at present there are at least four people, that I know of 
> > anyway, interested in the VerificationEngine:
> >
> > Weston (me)
> > Jonathan Duty
> > Srihari S
> > Denes
> >
> > I think you are right, we basically want to start with a list of our

> > verification requirements and take it from there.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Weston
> >
> > On Wednesday 13 August 2003 06:47 pm, klas axell wrote:
> > > I have been reading through some of the spec today and the thing I

> > > can begin working on is the verifier. I saw in another post in 
> > > this thread that someone was talking about making a list (ie 
> > > simplify the spec) of what the verifier has to verify. That would 
> > > indeed be a good starting point. Is someone working on this list 
> > > of requirements?
> > >
> > > /Klas
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Weston M. Price" <weston_p@yahoo.com>
> > > Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 09:48:26 +0000
> > > To: geronimo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: J2EE DeploymentManager ( was J2EE deployment 
> > > verifier)
> > >
> > > > I agree with Srihari in that the Verification manager does not 
> > > > have to implement the spec interfaces, however, the 
> > > > DeploymentManager does, this would be where we would implment 
> > > > DDRoot, DDConfig etc.....in some ways the DeploymentManager 
> > > > would just use the services of the VerificatinoEngine as one 
> > > > step in the process of actual deployment.
> > > >
> > > > Is this in line with what you guys were thinking?
> > > >
> > > > On Wednesday 13 August 2003 01:52 pm, Jonathan Duty wrote:
> > > > > When we implement this module, we could actually implement it 
> > > > > to exactly follow the API specs (JSR 88).  That means 
> > > > > implementing the DeploymentManager interface on top of it and 
> > > > > such.  That way any application (ant, Eclipse, etc) that is 
> > > > > equipped to deploy packages could interface with it.  It would

> > > > > just fall short of actually communicating with MBeans and 
> > > > > deploying the package.
> > > > >
> > > > > When this module is used internally (within the REAL 
> > > > > deployment
> > > > > manager) it could just bypass or override the Verification's
> > > > > Deployment manager.
> > > > >
> > > > > ~Jonathan
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Srihari S [mailto:sriharis@blr.pin.philips.com]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:43 AM
> > > > > To: geronimo-dev@incubator.apache.org; weston_p@yahoo.com
> > > > > Subject: RE: J2EE DeploymentManager ( was J2EE deployment 
> > > > > verifier)
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi All
> > > > >   When I was going thru the deployment api spec I thought it 
> > > > > would be good to bring up some points:
> > > > >
> > > > > From a preliminary reading of the spec i saw there are no apis

> > > > > explicitly designed to do the verification
> > > > > of a deployable unit. From this I infer that the verifier can
be an
> > > > > internal
> > > > > module which could be used
> > > > > by the deploy tool. So we could go full steam on its design
and
> > > > > implementation. In this regard I am trying to
> > > > > jot the list of checks that our verifier will have to do (This
is
> > > > > mentioned
> > > > > in the j2ee specs).
> > > > > So in a way it will be equivalent to arriving at requirement
specs
> > > > > for the
> > > > > verifier.
> > > > > With the list of dos and donts that a verifier has to achieve
we
> > > > > could go
> > > > > abt with design.Also the design of
> > > > > ant hooks can be taken care.Can we??
> > > > >
> > > > > Next is something abt the big picture. Certainly the verifer 
> > > > > is a small part of the deployment process.
> > > > > But to achieve compliance we will have to implement the
deployment
> > > > > spec as a
> > > > > whole. Has anyone given
> > > > > thought to this issue?
> > > > >
> > > > > regards
> > > > > Hari
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Weston M. Price [mailto:weston_p@yahoo.com]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 1:33 AM
> > > > > To: geronimo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: J2EE DeploymentManager ( was J2EE deployment 
> > > > > verifier)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > No, I think splitting them up would be good....
> > > > >
> > > > > Weston
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tuesday 12 August 2003 11:41 pm, Jonathan Duty wrote:
> > > > > > I'm creating a maven module to add to the cvs project. Do we

> > > > > > want to plan on the DeploymentManager, VerificationEngine, 
> > > > > > and DeploymentEngine being in one module?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What do you all think?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ~Jonathan
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Weston M. Price wrote:
> > > > > > >Just thought I should start a new thread....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >My KMail was getting dominated!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Weston

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