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From Labeeb Syed <>
Subject RE: J2EE DeploymentManager ( was J2EE deployment verifier)
Date Wed, 13 Aug 2003 21:30:03 GMT
Yes, Aaron you are correct. My concern is not with the
current spec only, but future specs too, perhaps two
iterations or even the next down (which seems to be a
trend), it may be decided to add the Deployment
Manager to the spec. This is the issue I was trying to
bring up. Either way is fine.

--- Aaron Mulder <>
> 	What spec are you talking about?  There is no spec
> for a verifier
> to adhere to.  The spec that a deployer could
> concievably adhere to says
> nothing about verification, or about the specific
> representation of
> server-specific information.  I'm not sure how you
> can take these two
> components and "strictly adhere to the spec" for
> both of them.  And for
> deployment, it isn't really an option to have a
> JSR-88 implementation that
> doesn't "strictly adhere to the spec" any more that
> we could have a
> non-compliant EJB container or web container.
> Aaron
> On Wed, 13 Aug 2003, Labeeb Syed wrote:
> > The primary issue I am concerned with is J2EE
> compliance. The Deploy
> > component should be able to delegate certain
> methods to the Verifier
> > component without a change in its own behavior. If
> we worry about the
> > deployment manager later, it will be a lot more
> troublesome and cause
> > some major confusion in terms of behaviour and
> responsibilty of the
> > various methods. Do you guys think we can get by
> and address such issues
> > later on?
> >
> > Secondly, there seems there will be an inherent
> overlapping of
> > responsibilities within the components. I have run
> into such issues
> > before and would like to avoid it altogether if
> possible. Sometimes you
> > end up re-coding and re-designing the whole
> component. Also in the
> > future someone else might be going through the
> code, it may make it more
> > difficult to enhance, test or debug the
> components. If we strictly
> > adhere to the spec, it will ensure better
> maintainability and longevity.
> > This my opinion in regards to the two components.

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