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From "Weston M. Price" <>
Subject Re: All Interested In J2EE Deployment/Verification Please Read
Date Wed, 13 Aug 2003 18:28:08 GMT
Ok, then we were talking about the same thing; just terms I suppose.



On Wednesday 13 August 2003 11:39 pm, Aaron Mulder wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Aug 2003, Weston M. Price wrote:
> > My thought was that there are going to be some basic services:
> >
> > 	Reading a deployable archive.
> > 	Manipulating a deployable archive (verifiying and iterating over
> > elements etc)
> > 	Reporting on failures, errors, warnings etc.
> >
> > that should be common to both the DeploymentManager and the Verifier. We
> > are all operating on either an EAR (J2eeApplicationObject) or a WAR, RAR,
> > JAR (DeployableObject), my thought was that we would share the same
> > notion of how these objects are represented and implemented, or at least
> > share code in certain regards. What sense would it make for the
> > DeploymentManager team to write code to read an EAR, extract the relevant
> > parts and manipulate the archive and then have the Verification team do
> > exactly the same thing? Is there something that I am missing?
> 	Well, java.util.jar.* provides most of what you need to read the
> actual xAR files...  between that and the ClassLoader, you can access
> and/or iterate classes pretty easily.  If we need to explode an EAR into a
> temp dir, that could be common, but it's still a pretty tiny amount of
> code.
> 	If you're talking about walking through the actual DD items
> (beans, resources, roles, etc.), that's what I meant by "metadata".  I
> think we do want a consistent set of objects to represent the J2EE and
> Geronimo metadata.  However, I think it will get populated in different
> ways.  If reading a JAR off disk, and that JAR has a couple XML files,
> then something will construct metadata objects from XML.  In the JSR-88
> case, the DConfigBeans can write to the same metadata objects...  And the
> J2EE standard metadata can either be stripped from the DDBeans or read
> from the DDs in the xAR.
> 	Anyway, I think we want a general procedure for error handling
> larger than the scope of the deployer and verifier.  Potentially something
> with I18N and so on.
> Aaron

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