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From "Weston M. Price" <westo...@yahoo.com>
Subject Re: J2EE DeploymentManager ( was J2EE deployment verifier)
Date Wed, 13 Aug 2003 16:46:00 GMT
Yes, at present there are at least four people, that I know of anyway, 
interested in the VerificationEngine:

Weston (me)
Jonathan Duty
Srihari S
Denes

I think you are right, we basically want to start with a list of our 
verification requirements and take it from there. 



Regards,
Weston

On Wednesday 13 August 2003 06:47 pm, klas axell wrote:
> I have been reading through some of the spec today and the thing I can
> begin working on is the verifier. I saw in another post in this thread that
> someone was talking about making a list (ie simplify the spec) of what the
> verifier has to verify. That would indeed be a good starting point. Is
> someone working on this list of requirements?
>
> /Klas
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Weston M. Price" <weston_p@yahoo.com>
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 09:48:26 +0000
> To: geronimo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: J2EE DeploymentManager ( was J2EE deployment verifier)
>
> > I agree with Srihari in that the Verification manager does not have to
> > implement the spec interfaces, however, the DeploymentManager does, this
> > would be where we would implment DDRoot, DDConfig etc.....in some ways
> > the DeploymentManager would just use the services of the
> > VerificatinoEngine as one step in the process of actual deployment.
> >
> > Is this in line with what you guys were thinking?
> >
> > On Wednesday 13 August 2003 01:52 pm, Jonathan Duty wrote:
> > > When we implement this module, we could actually implement it to
> > > exactly follow the API specs (JSR 88).  That means implementing the
> > > DeploymentManager interface on top of it and such.  That way any
> > > application (ant, Eclipse, etc) that is equipped to deploy packages
> > > could interface with it.  It would just fall short of actually
> > > communicating with MBeans and deploying the package.
> > >
> > > When this module is used internally (within the REAL deployment
> > > manager) it could just bypass or override the Verification's Deployment
> > > manager.
> > >
> > > ~Jonathan
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Srihari S [mailto:sriharis@blr.pin.philips.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:43 AM
> > > To: geronimo-dev@incubator.apache.org; weston_p@yahoo.com
> > > Subject: RE: J2EE DeploymentManager ( was J2EE deployment verifier)
> > >
> > > Hi All
> > >   When I was going thru the deployment api spec I thought it would be
> > > good
> > > to bring up some points:
> > >
> > > From a preliminary reading of the spec i saw there are no apis
> > > explicitly
> > > designed to do the verification
> > > of a deployable unit. From this I infer that the verifier can be an
> > > internal
> > > module which could be used
> > > by the deploy tool. So we could go full steam on its design and
> > > implementation. In this regard I am trying to
> > > jot the list of checks that our verifier will have to do (This is
> > > mentioned
> > > in the j2ee specs).
> > > So in a way it will be equivalent to arriving at requirement specs for
> > > the
> > > verifier.
> > > With the list of dos and donts that a verifier has to achieve we could
> > > go
> > > abt with design.Also the design of
> > > ant hooks can be taken care.Can we??
> > >
> > > Next is something abt the big picture. Certainly the verifer is a small
> > > part
> > > of the deployment process.
> > > But to achieve compliance we will have to implement the deployment spec
> > > as a
> > > whole. Has anyone given
> > > thought to this issue?
> > >
> > > regards
> > > Hari
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Weston M. Price [mailto:weston_p@yahoo.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 1:33 AM
> > > To: geronimo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: J2EE DeploymentManager ( was J2EE deployment verifier)
> > >
> > >
> > > No, I think splitting them up would be good....
> > >
> > > Weston
> > >
> > > On Tuesday 12 August 2003 11:41 pm, Jonathan Duty wrote:
> > > > I'm creating a maven module to add to the cvs project.
> > > > Do we want to plan on the DeploymentManager, VerificationEngine, and
> > > > DeploymentEngine being in one module?
> > > >
> > > > What do you all think?
> > > >
> > > > ~Jonathan
> > > >
> > > > Weston M. Price wrote:
> > > > >Just thought I should start a new thread....
> > > > >
> > > > >My KMail was getting dominated!
> > > > >
> > > > >Weston

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