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From Alan Cabrera <>
Subject RE: WebServices & UI team
Date Wed, 13 Aug 2003 23:57:46 GMT

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Noel J. Bergman [] 
> > SOAP can be embedded underneath JMX remote if one wanted to.
> Actually, you would do it the other way around.  SOAP over 
> JMX Remote.  As I read the JSR 160 specification, chapter 3 
> defines the RMI connection, chapter 4 defines a "generic" 
> connector that is dependent upon being able to 
> bi-directionally stream Java objects.

You can use SOAP as an underlying protocol although callbacks won't be as

> > My question is, why have a SOAP interface for server 
> management when 
> > JMX
> fits the bill?
> I was trying to translate what I was reading here, not 
> justify it.  However, it seems reasonable to assume that 
> system administrators may want various means for 
> administration, such as being able to write perl/python scripts.

Makes sense.  AAMOF, it makes so much sense that I'm wondering if a JSR
doesn't already address it.

> > I am wary of a proliferation of management APIs unless I am 
> mistaken 
> > and there is a SOAP spec out there for the management of 
> J2EE servers.
> A WSDL definition has to start somewhere.  You think you can 
> find anyone with J2EE admin experience around here?

I was thinking along the lines of a JSR.  I am lothe to begin a non-JSR
effort for a standard SOAP admin interface.

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