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From James Strachan <>
Subject Re: geronimo and avalon?
Date Fri, 08 Aug 2003 08:12:22 GMT

On Friday, August 8, 2003, at 09:04  am, Paul Hammant wrote:

> Folks,
> It is way too early to talk of a (internal) component design.  
> Refactor to it later. Or enable all visions, again later.  Working 
> code that passes unit tests is far more important.


Lets try not do too much design up front. Most important right now is 
creating unit tests, getting good test coverage & completing the 
EJB/MDB container & integrating Tomcat/Jetty, James, Axis, OJB,  
OpenJMS etc. (Note thats not just dropping components into a container 
- its things like using MDBs in James & Axis or transactions in OJB, 
OpenJms and EJB etc).

Lets take an XP approach to get things functional and get it tested & 
working, then look at refactoring when it makes sense later on. If we 
spend too much time on up front design right now we'll never get 
anywhere. I think Geronimo can only really be succesful if we follow an 
XP path and let the framework show itself to us as we refactor rather 
than designing it up front.


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