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From Udo Kohlmeyer <>
Subject Re: Unnecessary uses of final on local variables
Date Wed, 19 Jun 2019 17:30:26 GMT
I agree with Darrel, Bill has made some very compelling arguments.

I also add my vote of -1 to remove "noisy" final keywords from local 

I am VERY interested in understanding how the JVM would handle this, as 
final is a keyword that stops the reassignment of the variable with 
another value. It would never stop immutability concerns. This can only 
be achieved by following stricter rules regarding how Pojos are created 
and coding practices.

I believe it is better to be more secure and opt-out when not required, 
than trying to add-in being more secure (as you are more likely to miss 


On 6/19/19 08:41, Darrel Schneider wrote:
> I find Bill's argument of using final by default on everything convincing
> and removing it when you have something that needs to be changed.
> It is not in keeping with my current practice but I'm willing to change.
> So I vote -1 to not using "final" on local variables.
> On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 7:29 AM Anthony Baker <> wrote:
>> Just to confirm, the primary place where we make project decisions is on
>> the dev@geode list.  Thanks!
>> Anthony
>>> On Jun 19, 2019, at 7:19 AM, Bill Burcham <> wrote:
>>> I feel that a lot more
>>> conversation is needed, outside email. On the other hand, this mailing
>> list
>>> is a fine place to deliberate. But to deliberate successfully on this
>>> issue, via email, I think we'll have to break it down further, and we'll
>>> have to be comfortable with the process taking a long time.

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