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Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 08:50:36 -0500
From: "Tim Williams" <williamstw@gmail.com>
To: user@forrest.apache.org
Subject: Re: Cocoon sitemaps and Forrest sitemaps
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On 3/16/06, Woods, Christopher <cwoods@eo.kollmorgen.com> wrote:
> Hi Joe,
>
> Here is, at least, part of the puzzle: http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon/XMLD=
BTransformer?highlight=3D%28xindice%29.  I'll share a few of my conclusions=
 and welcome anyone on the list to chime in with comments or suggestions. I=
 realize that this post may seem to be more of a cocoon or xindice post at =
times but because the site is ultimately built using forrest I think it's a=
ppropriate to post to this list.
>

Have you had a look at:
http://www.cocooncenter.org/articles/xindice.html ?  Not sure if it
helps but it sounds like you're querying and not updating so using the
psuedo-protocol in a generator would be more what you're looking for.
Though I really have no clue because I've never reallly looked into it
- just saw that article and thought it may be of use to you if you
hadn't seen it already.

> Everything that follows assumes that forrest 0.7 is in use.
>
> I have a very lengthy XML file that is validated to a DTD.  This file is =
to be the source for a forrest site.  It appeals to me to let forrest handl=
e all the presentation issues as this will leave me free to focus on the XM=
L data thus freeing me from the drudgery of building, scripting, and tweaki=
ng a web ui (or it will if I ever figure this out).  I want to be able to u=
pdate xindice as needed and not have to tinker with the rest of the site.
>
> The XML file is about 1.7 MB in size.  Reading through the Xindice site, =
I have concluded that it is best to break this file up into smaller chunks =
before adding it to the xmldb.
>
> Next, I'm using cocoon 2.1.8 which has xindice bundled with it.  I haven'=
t sorted out how to add my XML documents to the bundled xindice.  Using xin=
dice as a stand-alone, I simply do startup.bat in $XINDICE_HOME and use the=
 command line to add my documents.  At the moment, I'm confused about how t=
o "start" the xindice bundle within cocoon as I can't find the startup.bat =
file.  Anyway, that's minor, I'll figure it out eventually though if anyone=
 wants to reply to that I'm most grateful.
>
> The rest of the plan is to cut and paste the xmldb transformer:
>
> <map:transformers default=3D"xslt">
>   <map:transformer name=3D"xmldb" src=3D"org.apache.cocoon.transformation=
.XMLDBTransformer">
>     <driver>org.apache.xindice.client.xmldb.DatabaseImpl</driver>
>     <base>xmldb:xindice://localhost:8888/db</base>
>   </map:transformer>
>   ...
> </map:transformers>
>
>  from cocoon's sitemap.xmap into my forrest projects $project_home/main/w=
ebapp/sitemap.xmap.  So now forrest should have a connection to xindice.  T=
he wiki has an example called populate.xml but the link is broken (maybe so=
meone on the list knows the correct location).
>
> Here is what I think I need to finish this up (purely conjecture):
>
> 1.  A pipeline to handle page requests by turning the into XPATH queries,=
 sending the query to the xmldb, and returning the requested XML document.
>
> 2.  A stylesheet to transform the returned document into document-v13 for=
mat.
>
> This raises the following question:
>
> Does forrest use whatever version of cocoon my system variable $COCOON_HO=
ME is set to or is it bundled with its own cocoon build?  How can I find ou=
t which version of cocoon forrest is using?

$FORREST_HOME\lib\core\cocoon-XYZ-rABC.jar will give you which Cocoon we're=
 on.

> Once we get this sorted out, I intend to post the solution on the wiki bu=
t there is still a way to go here.  Anyway, thanks to everyone who has repl=
ied so far and anyone who chimes in as this thread works itself out.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: J.D. Williams [mailto:jdwilliams@austin.rr.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 4:46 PM
> To: user@forrest.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Cocoon sitemaps and Forrest sitemaps
>
> Sounds like we're on our own, Chris.
>
> :)
>
> Joe
>
> Thorsten Scherler wrote:
>
> > El mi=E9, 15-03-2006 a las 13:40 -0500, Woods, Christopher escribi=F3:
> >
> >>Hi Folks,
> >>
> >>I'm trying to sort out where Forrest ends and Cocoon begins with
> >>regard to sitemaps.  As best I can tell, the only two sets of sitemaps
> >>that are used by Forrest are the local-project sitemaps (these are
> >>processed
> >>first) and the forrest-home sitemaps (these are processed only if
> >>local-project does not handle the request).
> >
> >
> > Then there are the sitemaps provided by the plugins and we talking
> > about "sets". ;) There are million of *.xmaps in forrest (at least it
> > seems like it). ;)
> >
> >
> >> Am I correct in assuming
> >>that sitemaps in cocoon-home are only used for instances not processed
> >>by the forrest-home sitemaps?
> >
> >
> > I do not understand the question.
> >
> > If you tell forrest to use them then forrest will use them but if you
> > place a *.xmap in cocoon forrest will not read it out of the box.
> >
> >
> >>  Thanks very much.
> >>
> >>Chris
> >
> >
> > http://forrest.apache.org/docs_0_70/project-sitemap.html
>
>
>