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From "Pedro I. Sanchez" <psanc...@colcan.biz>
Subject Re: Some feedback on using Forrest
Date Thu, 26 May 2005 12:28:22 GMT
On Thu, 2005-26-05 at 12:16 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote:
> David Crossley wrote:
> > Pedro I. Sanchez wrote:
> 
> ...
> 
> >>I've worked with the svn version of Forrest and I'd like to share some
> >>comments on my experience so far.
> > 
> > 
> > Oh thank you. That is exactly what we need - feedback.
> > Also people testing 0.7-dev is helping to create a better release.
> 
> I also want to thank you, this is a very valuable contribution to the 
> development of Forrest.
> 
> >>2. My site.xml file has the following:
> >>
> >><files>
> >>...
> >><eventos href="eventos/index.html"/>
> >></files>
> >>
> >>However, <a href="site:eventos" /> is rendered as the link
> >>http://sello-propio.com/eventos/ which you can see in the front
> >>page. Where did the "index.html" part go? This is annoying 
> >>because while testing the site in my local hard drive (with
> >>URLs like file:///path/to/build/site) these links give me
> >>the list of files in the directory instead of the "index.html"
> >>file I am expecting.
> >>
> >>Basically, there seems to be the implicit assumption that the
> >>web server will always figure out that index.html is the file
> >>that has to be rendered. This is not always the case. In particular
> >>several "embedded" web server don't have this logic built in
> >>and require a explicit mention of the target file.
> > 
> > 
> > I wonder if this FAQ would address that issue:
> > http://forrest.apache.org/0.7/docs/faq.html#defaultStartPage
> 
> This is a different issue, That FAQ is about changing the default page 
> used if none is defined in the URL.  In this case the page to be used 
> has been defined in the HREF and therefore should be included in the link.
> 
> However, I have never seen this before, and a fresh-seed site shows that 
> this functionality works correctly. Do:
> 
> mkdir fresh
> cd fresh
> forrest seed
> forrest run
> http://localhost:8888/samples/linking.html#site
> 
> Note the links in this section, they correctly link to the named page, 
> for example:
> 
> <a href="site:faq">site:faq</a>
> 
> generates the link:
> 
> http://localhost:8888/samples/faq.html
> 
> 
> Do you have another element in your site.xml called "eventos", that 
> could be getting in the way?
> 

Thanks! you got it. There is a tab called "eventos" as well. Removing
this duplication fixes the problemm.

> If you change the site.xml entry to <eventos 
> href="eventos/testing.html"/> what is the resultant link?
> 
> 
> >>4. You will notice that the date in the top right of the pages is
> >>the current date/time as of the moment you click to see each page.
> >>This is supposed to be the "Published" date instead! (I removed
> >>the "Publicado", in Spanish, because it is simply not working).
> >>
> >>The server serving the pages doesn't have Java available. Could this
> >>be the reason why I get this weird behaviour?
> > 
> > 
> > Perhaps there is a problem with your web server. When i request
> > HEAD of that document, it shows that there is no "Last-Modified"
> > header in the response.
> 
> To be clear, the last published time is taken from the LAST-MODIFIED 
> header, if it is not present the current date/time is used. Note that it 
> *should* be present, this is a config problem on your server.
> 

As I said before, I have no control over the web server. But I'd like to
know what exactly is needed there to get this feature working. Maybe I
can convince someone to do it :|

> Once again, thanks for your feedback. Being made aware of these issues 
> is how we try and make sure Forrest works for everyone as intended. 
> Without this feedback the devs cannot do their job properly. For all 
> those lurkers here, you can contribute to Forrest directly simply by 
> providing feedback like this.
> 

I glad to see this is helpful. I will continue working with 0.7-dev and
would let you know how it goes. BTW, understanding the menu generation
thing was not trivial. There's a few things the docs fail to mention.
I'll try to put them in some good wording later this week.

-- 
Pedro

> Ross


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