Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-forrest-user-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 18597 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2005 15:16:58 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 2 Mar 2005 15:16:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 18535 invoked by uid 500); 2 Mar 2005 15:16:58 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-forrest-user-archive@forrest.apache.org Received: (qmail 18505 invoked by uid 500); 2 Mar 2005 15:16:57 -0000 Mailing-List: contact user-help@forrest.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: user@forrest.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list user@forrest.apache.org Received: (qmail 18491 invoked by uid 99); 2 Mar 2005 15:16:57 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=10.0 tests=PRIORITY_NO_NAME,SPF_HELO_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (HELO moutng.kundenserver.de) (212.227.126.176) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Wed, 02 Mar 2005 07:16:55 -0800 Received: from [212.227.126.160] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1D6Val-0004Fh-00 for user@forrest.apache.org; Wed, 02 Mar 2005 16:16:51 +0100 Received: from a212596111.net-htp.de ([212.59.61.11] helo=localhost) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1D6Val-000841-00 for user@forrest.apache.org; Wed, 02 Mar 2005 16:16:51 +0100 Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 16:16:51 +0100 From: Ferdinand Soethe X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <32295782.20050302161651@soethe.net> To: David Crossley Subject: Re: Forrest Skin renders poorly in IE 5 In-Reply-To: <20050302125224.GB5457@igg.indexgeo.com.au> References: <25943321.20050302100846@soethe.net> <20050302125224.GB5457@igg.indexgeo.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:f75f2bd431147ec08213cc5cdb6cedb7 X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N David Crossley wrote: DC> For a long time we tried to render okay in really old browsers, so we DC> kept using the tables-based skin as default and on the forrest website. DC> Then we decided to move on and use CSS. If there is some stuff that we DC> can do to assist older browsers, then we should do that. Great, so I'll create a new bug issue as soon as I have to screen shot to show the problem. Johannes Schaefer wrote: JS> We simply accepted this as an IE bug since it isn't JS> critical (for us). I probably would if it didn't make the text unreadable. >> Q2: Is there a list of what is expected from a Forrest enabled browser >> or a list of browsers and versions that will render the default skins >> properly? DC> We do need to provide a list of expectations. I wouldn't want to try DC> to maintain a browser compliance table though. Perhaps we can make DC> a list of requirements and point to browser tests at other site. Great idea. I suggest creating a document with a tabular matrix showing skin1 skin2 skin3 requirement1 state state requirement2 requirement3 with requirements showing something like EcmaScript, CSS1, Java, table support etc. and one of four states in the middle. The states should be must have - site will be unreadable without should have - site will be hard to use without optional - site will look nicer with it not used - makes no difference Each requirement could be a link to a test-page for this requirement or better - a forrest testpage. I offer to write this if people send me the requirement for 'their' or a public skin (perhaps as a response to this posting?). -- Ferdinand Soethe