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From "Stewart W Moore" <>
Subject Re: commercial Forrest skins?
Date Wed, 01 Dec 2004 18:20:47 GMT

After "lurking" for sometime, I feel it's time to add my two cents. I have
been using forrest as a "documentation" tool for both project
administration and software development. In the first case, forrest can be
used as a means of communicating project status, archiving meeting minutes,
etc. At any given time one can then produce project status info for
reporting purposes. I have used it for both internal and customer

As a tool for software documentation, I use forrest at the root development
directory for each application. Then the software documentation "rides"
with the software distribution and can even be linked from within your code
as help, etc. I have added options in the software to do a forrest build on
demand, so one can deliver self documenting' software.

Denny Moore

"Glen Tulukin" <>> on 12/01/2004 12:59:20

Please respond to

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Subject:    Re: commercial Forrest skins?

I knew that -- there are people who use Forrest for *real* site generation.
We can argue about the term "documentation" but the *real" site hardly can
be called *documentation* -- IMHO. I like suggested "Apache Forrest is a
content presentation framework that is able to render complete and
consistent websites, documents and reports by keeping the content separate
from the style. "

I'll ask client's (actually I have two clients) permission to post a link
their web site. Next to the link to the web site I suggest to have short
description what they did/used/how customized Forrest.


P.S. One of clients is graphic design and signmaking company -- they can do
t-shirts. I ordered one for myself with text "See FoRRest for the xml
that I proudly wear at this very moment. I can ask if they can do more but
guess they need some kind of permission from ASF... But use the slogan if
you like.

"Arik Kfir" <> wrote in message
> Glen Tulukin wrote:
> >"Apache Forrest is an XML standards-oriented documentation framework
> >upon Apache Cocoon, providing XSLT stylesheets and schemas, images and
> >resources. Forrest uses these to render the source content into a
> >via command-line, robot, or dynamic application. " -- it's on the
> > The word "documentation" is restrictive/confusing
> >new commer. I am lucky to have Vadim Gritsenko in the next cubical (he
> >frequent contributor to Cocoon, if somebody does not know) who can
> >that "Forrest is Cocoon plus three skins plus ready-to-use sitemap. Do
> >Forrest whatever you would do with Cocoon. People mainly use it for
> >documentation and you are the first one I know who uses Forrest for
> >website generation."
> >
> >
> Umm....well actually we use Forrest for *real* site generation. I'm
> heading our Java technologies
> team over at the Israeli AirForce and we maintain a site that contains
> all the resources a Java developer
> here needs (something like an aggregation of articles, documentations,
> links, work procedures, how-tos,
> etc).  We also implemented a continuous integration framework which
> resembles Maven (only we did it
> four years ago ;-)) which integrates nicely into Forrest too. We use
> almost all Forrest features such as
> skins, new DTDs/catalogs, and even integrated it with custom Java
> Servlets code running in the same
> web app (in addition to using it for static content).  Actually, we're
> anxious for the plugin-concept to come
> out...
> Just wanted to make ya Forrest devs feel proud ;-)
> >Then welcome more patchers with more attractive product idea. I suggest
> >replace "documentation" with "content generation and management":
> >Forrest is an XML standards-oriented ***content generation and
> >framework based upon Apache Cocoon, providing XSLT stylesheets and
> >images and other resources. Forrest uses these to render the source
> >into a website via command-line, robot, or dynamic application. "
> >
> >Glen
> >
> >
> Love it.
> cheers ;-)

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