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From Arik Kfir <>
Subject Re: commercial Forrest skins?
Date Wed, 01 Dec 2004 22:25:58 GMT
Ross Gardler wrote:

> Arik Kfir wrote:
>> Glen Tulukin wrote:
>>> "Apache Forrest is an XML standards-oriented documentation framework 
>>> based
>>> upon Apache Cocoon, providing XSLT stylesheets and schemas, images 
>>> and other
>>> resources. Forrest uses these to render the source content into a 
>>> website
>>> via command-line, robot, or dynamic application. " -- it's on the
>>> The word "documentation" is 
>>> restrictive/confusing for a
>>> new commer. I am lucky to have Vadim Gritsenko in the next cubical 
>>> (he is
>>> frequent contributor to Cocoon, if somebody does not know) who can 
>>> explain
>>> that "Forrest is Cocoon plus three skins plus ready-to-use sitemap. 
>>> Do with
>>> Forrest whatever you would do with Cocoon. People mainly use it for
>>> documentation and you are the first one I know who uses Forrest for 
>>> _real_
>>> website generation."
>> Umm....well actually we use Forrest for *real* site generation. I'm 
>> heading our Java technologies
>> team over at the Israeli AirForce and we maintain a site that 
>> contains all the resources a Java developer
>> here needs (something like an aggregation of articles, 
>> documentations, links, work procedures, how-tos,
>> etc).  We also implemented a continuous integration framework which 
>> resembles Maven (only we did it
>> four years ago ;-)) which integrates nicely into Forrest too. We use 
>> almost all Forrest features such as
>> skins, new DTDs/catalogs, and even integrated it with custom Java 
>> Servlets code running in the same
>> web app (in addition to using it for static content).  Actually, 
>> we're anxious for the plugin-concept to come
>> out...
> Wow - this sounds really cool.
> The plugin infrastructure is reasonably well defined at this stage. We 
> have a number of plugins in 0.7-dev. If you would like to join us over 
> on the dev list I would be more than happy to assist you with any 
> plugins you want to build.
> Given you use case you may be interested in the (very new) logs 
> plugin. This is a plugin for displaying the output of log files in a 
> Forrest site. We use it to display the logs of the most recent 
> integration builds. At the moment it only supports the J2SE logging 
> format, but it's a relatively trivial thing to enable other formats.
> There is a How-To on building plugins, it's not available on the 
> public site yet, but if you have the SVN version of Forrest you have 
> it in your how-to directory. If not you can view the xdocs online at:

> Some more technical docs are available at:

> Ross
10x, I'll take a look at that, though I'll probably have a hard time 
getting 0.7-dev into production use (we're already using 0.6 which is 
"kinda beta" so using 0.7-dev is kinda "beta-of-beta" if you catch my 
meaning ;-)

But we'll start playing with it so we'll be ready when it comes out. 
It's too bad we can't provide a link for your example sites (we're an 
offline site...)


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