Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-forrest-user-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 6072 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2004 15:43:47 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 29 Nov 2004 15:43:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 70835 invoked by uid 500); 29 Nov 2004 15:42:30 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-forrest-user-archive@forrest.apache.org Received: (qmail 70555 invoked by uid 500); 29 Nov 2004 15:42:26 -0000 Mailing-List: contact user-help@forrest.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Reply-To: user@forrest.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list user@forrest.apache.org Received: (qmail 70506 invoked by uid 99); 29 Nov 2004 15:42:25 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from garuda-95.cablenet.com.ni (HELO ags01.agsoftware.dnsalias.com) (165.98.147.95) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 07:42:24 -0800 Received: from ags01.agsoftware.dnsalias.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ags01.agsoftware.dnsalias.com (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iATFgIm0002789 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:42:18 -0600 Received: (from apache@localhost) by ags01.agsoftware.dnsalias.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id iATFgI8d002787; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:42:18 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: ags01.agsoftware.dnsalias.com: apache set sender to agallardo@agssa.net using -f Received: from 10.0.0.54 (SquirrelMail authenticated user agallardo); by ags01.agsoftware.dnsalias.com with HTTP; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:42:18 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <40196.10.0.0.54.1101742938.squirrel@ags01.agsoftware.dnsalias.com> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:42:18 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: commercial Forrest skins? From: "Antonio Gallardo" To: user@forrest.apache.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a-6.FC2 X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a-6.FC2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Hi Thomas, I saw the files you post and I think we are mixing targets. AFAIK, Forrest is a documentation tool and the sites you sent are more portal sites. Best Regards, Antonio Gallardo. > Ross Gardler wrote: > >> Thorsten Scherler wrote: >> > El jue, 25-11-2004 a las 22:28, Glen Tulukin escribi�: >> > >> >>Several times I was asked by graphic artists and web designers >> whether there >> >>is a market for commercial Forrest skins. What does the Forrest >> community>>think? Thanks. >> >> >> > >> > >> > IMO no because we are still < 1.0. As well we are talking about introducing the new concept of views/themes that will be second generation skining for 0.7. That means mayor changes in how to >> create> the design for forrest. I reckon if we are fast enough the skin concept >> > will no be in 0.7 anymore. >> > >> > BTW I would like to see designer and graphic artist providing >> themes for >> > the new views in the future *free of charge* to give something >> back to >> > forrest. I personally would not *buy* a view and theme. >> >> And in the process be one of the first to understand the new theme + >> view concept and therefore be first to the market that *may* >> emerge >> (don't forget the ASF license is commercial friendly). >> >> > I think that we need more designer and graphic artist as >> developer here >> > in forrest. Please let your friends know that there are here very welcome. ;-) >> >> +10000 >> >> Ross >> > > I don't think that commercial skins is an interesting concept. > Graphic/Web designers prefer to work with clients and do something specific for him or her. Therefore commercial skins would not work. > > Though they are not bad, it would be very nice to improve the quality of the default skins!! > The page template and the css could be improved to be more W3C > compliant, etc, but it is not a big deal. Beside the layout could be improved, though it is, according to me, already pretty good. > What I would like to see is CSS which are easy and fast to customize. Futhermore I would like to see XSLT code which is easier to customize, though it is not bad, don't get me wrong ;). The goal would be that Web designer use XSLT to create more dynamic pages with modular information, like text boxes for instance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page , http://www.k10k.net/ , http://www.fdtdesign.com/.) However, two level of XSLT code are already differentiated; XSLT code that you can change and the one your are not supposed to, I like this idea. > So my moto is more flexibility for CSS and XSLT code. > Where can I have more information about the views/themes concepts? Thank you. > > Thomas > > > > >