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From Nicola Ken Barozzi <>
Subject Re: commercial Forrest skins?
Date Tue, 30 Nov 2004 16:46:14 GMT
Glen Tulukin wrote:
> "Apache Forrest is an XML standards-oriented documentation framework based
> upon Apache Cocoon, providing XSLT stylesheets and schemas, images and other
> resources. Forrest uses these to render the source content into a website
> via command-line, robot, or dynamic application. " -- it's on the
> The word "documentation" is restrictive/confusing for a
> new commer. I am lucky to have Vadim Gritsenko in the next cubical (he is
> frequent contributor to Cocoon, if somebody does not know) who can explain
> that "Forrest is Cocoon plus three skins plus ready-to-use sitemap. Do with
> Forrest whatever you would do with Cocoon. People mainly use it for
> documentation and you are the first one I know who uses Forrest for _real_
> website generation."

The goal of Forrest is to make a documentation tool that separates 
content from presentation, where by documentation we indicate any data 
that is to be presented to the user, also (and ATM mainly) in website form.

I had never thought that "real" website generation was less restrictive 
than documentation, as we tend to see the website as just one way of 
presenting documentation, and the documentation as an aggregation of 
diverse data sources.

Is the following better?

"Apache Forrest is an XML standards-oriented data, news and 
documentation presentation framework based upon Apache Cocoon, that is 
able to render complete and consistent websites, documents and reports 
by keeping the content separate from the style."

Note that Forrest's goal is not to 'manage' the data, that's the goal of 
Lenya :-)

Nicola Ken Barozzi         
             - verba volant, scripta manent -
    (discussions get forgotten, just code remains)

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