Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-forrest-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 13231 invoked from network); 26 May 2010 12:22:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 26 May 2010 12:22:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 78349 invoked by uid 500); 26 May 2010 12:22:15 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-forrest-dev-archive@forrest.apache.org Received: (qmail 78309 invoked by uid 500); 26 May 2010 12:22:15 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@forrest.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@forrest.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@forrest.apache.org Received: (qmail 78302 invoked by uid 99); 26 May 2010 12:22:15 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 26 May 2010 12:22:15 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.4 required=10.0 tests=AWL,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of williamstw@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.176 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.160.176] (HELO mail-gy0-f176.google.com) (209.85.160.176) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 26 May 2010 12:22:09 +0000 Received: by gyf1 with SMTP id 1so2655611gyf.21 for ; Wed, 26 May 2010 05:21:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=BdF2GgDvDiMGYyt6Y8uazr/hq9DLDtKf0hUWJuLiYI8=; b=lJgaqz6BlMsOBqwU/V6FyZfS50vDvPx20gcj5JZhXMMvvxtdg+GDMOC8UrptjeXGVk 5PyquXq16qOK54CbDq3KvKMvLKtGAkn1g1tHSVOa+zrsomwLA97BRM4ngzJvKXwjkbCg QbjD+Zliqi8H/oCq9Ue5RnBNw0Qnb0h6T3/xc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=x/872pZ89E6OGjM3HkROS4RodaM4QeTOoDeZCtRnXZp2pPkHo/jM27mIvS9W8ggAGW CnIPoDX7g4MgJwpehWmAtNltnPGebQ//WSiU4w7uAovcFtQJ7ywOqtrUH42rc8IlHz0a sVps7fNQT7VZoWPdtXr4AvvXA52Cd+oNOM6mI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.187.14 with SMTP id k14mr10120740ybf.199.1274876508222; Wed, 26 May 2010 05:21:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.41.16 with HTTP; Wed, 26 May 2010 05:21:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100526031825.GC2582@beaver.dehavilland> References: <499888440912071419q1e9b5d33q9ef86978b52e3126@mail.gmail.com> <4BD023C3.9040907@apache.org> <4BD56223.60003@pco-innovation.com> <20100427060403.GA4348@igg.local> <5DFC1A23-9FCA-4400-96E7-4B46F3013913@apache.org> <30CF4827-5D22-47E0-9B71-8F536828C766@apache.org> <20100526031825.GC2582@beaver.dehavilland> Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 08:21:48 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Merging back the dispatcher From: Tim Williams To: dev@forrest.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 11:18 PM, Brian M Dube wrote: > On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 08:16:51AM -0400, Tim Williams wrote: >> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 4:03 AM, Thorsten Scherler = wrote: >> > >> > On 25/05/2010, at 03:15, Tim Williams wrote: >> > >> >> On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 7:59 AM, Thorsten Scherler wrote: >> >>> >> >>> On 27/04/2010, at 08:04, David Crossley wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> Tim Williams wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Well, if the dispatcher is all that changed in such a release, we >> >>>>> could do a 0.91 afterwards. =A0I think there's another considerati= on >> >>>>> that I didn't mention too. =A0I feel irresponsible releasing softw= are >> >>>>> that we can't support and I'm concerned that this would be the cas= e >> >>>>> with the dispatcher. =A0I have a difficult enough time now digging= up >> >>>>> Cocoon knowledge when questions come across but with >> >>>>> dispatcher-related ones I have no clue. =A0Maybe it's an unfounded >> >>>>> concern, I dunno... >> >>>> >> >>>> I have the same concerns. >> >>>> >> >>>> Perhaps we should get 0.9 released ASAP, >> >>>> then make a concerted effort to build a Dispatcher >> >>>> community. Make another release soon after. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> I understand what you are all saying, but the dispatcher is basicall= y one transformer and >> >>> the usage of locationmap for resolving the structurer and contracts.= There is not much >> >>> more to it. >> >> >> >> So, would you be against a 0.9 release with dispatcher in the >> >> whiteboard? =A0Does anyone have the time in the near future to move i= t >> >> from the whiteboard anyway? >> > >> > >> > I am not sure about the community support as reason to keep it in the = whiteboard. There are many devs and committer >> > that uses the dispatcher so I do not see the missing community around = it. >> >> Thanks Thorsten, fair enough, I'm hoping someone finds time to move it >> to /plugins soon? =A0I've been avoiding the dispatcher related 0.9 >> issues until this decision was made so we'll also need to start >> picking through those issues and figuring which can be pushed off. >> >> --tim > > I can find the time to move it, but do we have a consensus? It's hard > to tell when it's so quiet. As I understand it, it could happen under lazy approval anyway. I dunno, maybe a vote is in order. On the other hand, I need to find our documentation on plugin releases and how they do/do not necessarily coincide with the app itself - I think Ross has written about this somewhere... --tim