Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-forrest-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 23061 invoked from network); 8 Oct 2009 07:46:02 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 8 Oct 2009 07:46:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 38230 invoked by uid 500); 8 Oct 2009 07:46:02 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-forrest-dev-archive@forrest.apache.org Received: (qmail 38167 invoked by uid 500); 8 Oct 2009 07:46:02 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@forrest.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@forrest.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@forrest.apache.org Received: (qmail 38152 invoked by uid 99); 8 Oct 2009 07:46:01 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 07:46:01 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [66.111.4.25] (HELO out1.smtp.messagingengine.com) (66.111.4.25) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 08 Oct 2009 07:45:51 +0000 Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.internal [10.202.2.42]) by gateway1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 665039559D for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 03:45:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 08 Oct 2009 03:45:30 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: NgpgiNlIPXzzVPwDba6DQrH43Utx1fNYBccimxWPg81m 1254987928 Received: from localhost (dsl-41-216.wholesaledsl.com.au [125.168.41.216]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B8DAA76FA1 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2009 03:45:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 18:45:32 +1100 From: David Crossley To: dev@forrest.apache.org Subject: [Important] Status and future direction Message-ID: <20091008074532.GB5258@igg.indexgeo.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org This is my personal opinion. ---oOo--- Status: Forrest appears to be at a standstill. It has been a long time since a release. Also the previous release had a long gap. ---oOo--- Possible future directions: A) Stay with current situation of Cocoon-2.1 version. There is plenty of development that can be done with our current Forrest/Cocoon technology. Fine-tuning and clean-up. Fully implement the new xml properties system. I gather that it is ready. Just needs to be configured for our sample sites, plugins, and docs, and also documentation updated. New plugins. Improve the plugin infrastructure and address the needs of ASF releases for our plugins. Improvement and clean-up of documentation. Development can still be done at Cocoon-2.1 and our packaged Cocoon be updated. The process is well documented. B) Try to upgrade to Cocoon-2.2 version. See past discussion in our dev mail archives. C) Try to upgrade to Cocoon-3 version. I don't know whether Cocoon-3 is ready or possible for Forrest. Would someone else comment. D) Develop some other core. See past discussion in our dev mail archives. E) Cease Forrest and move to the Apache Attic. http://attic.apache.org/ ---oOo--- Whatever happens, we still need to make a release. Whatever happens, more people need to assist with the project management tasks. ---oOo--- My opinion is that Forrest needs to make a decision about which direction, and stick with it, developers get involved to start Forrest moving again, and build the community. Options A to D have previous discussion in the dev mail archives. -David