Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-forrest-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 36516 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2008 12:20:03 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 22 Dec 2008 12:20:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 8771 invoked by uid 500); 22 Dec 2008 12:20:02 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-forrest-dev-archive@forrest.apache.org Received: (qmail 8617 invoked by uid 500); 22 Dec 2008 12:20:02 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@forrest.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@forrest.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@forrest.apache.org Received: (qmail 8599 invoked by uid 99); 22 Dec 2008 12:20:02 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 04:20:02 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of grobmeier@gmail.com designates 72.14.220.155 as permitted sender) Received: from [72.14.220.155] (HELO fg-out-1718.google.com) (72.14.220.155) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:19:54 +0000 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e21so777803fga.25 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 04:19:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=OBKpX7YJsn7Sz5rwc6dkJ6dF+dloGVdGSSqzS7r3YsI=; b=nfhTCdFT1L7ckHqyZHdL4s+8VSolmykusCBYl92WJ6z5ocYYc/qQhlfNsTIWrYVti7 TZN8zcCV5svOSuU12ZPz11jlix3xVw+WRiD1rmWplx/SaCYEkPFAN1aw30OxVDMVUlgA 4w9l3HA40srV1ZKLYIaRl8iuPBI4P7flD6uh0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=LP3kpbowFC6D+k1kndEdH/ZxdJOew7f9KeH+Vju+gnA/JXn6vBrFR9m8BVU358k/QB etpR1+DHsmUhN0Vmk/EawcOT8Ea5qGJpatGWo6+4oVlCMWufzoxxmXwHMP3sIfI1p9Kn 0cztdMcZuhJeRUKxog86ic9OBRmRaBx+sFDv4= Received: by 10.86.29.8 with SMTP id c8mr3628043fgc.19.1229948373986; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 04:19:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.86.49.15 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 04:19:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:19:33 +0100 From: "Christian Grobmeier" To: dev@forrest.apache.org Subject: Re: Piwi - Forrest in PHP In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <89981C6C-BEDC-4F0F-8498-8DCEBCB10F00@apache.org> <20081220021346.GA3312@igg.indexgeo.com.au> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org >> I don't understand what this has to do with Forrest, >> other than it was inspired by Forrest. >> >> Why are we talking about the design of Piwi on this list? >> Better on the Piwi mail list. > > Because the developers seem to think it is appropriate to the Forrest > project. Just because we don't see why at first glance doesn't mean it isn't > relevant. We are interested in sharing with Forrest, if we have the same goals. In fact, I allready contributed to Apache and I like the people here. It might happen that people here think that both projects would fit together. I think so :-) >> We have enough trouble getting people to develop Forrest, >> let alone develop someone else's product. > > The problems with Forrest, as I see them, were clearly laid out a very long > time ago. Piwi is addressing the same problems (overly complex, hard to > host, impossible to embed, hard to understand). Correct - PIWI has stolen the best of Forrest and tries to make it as easy as possible. I remember the time when I started to get into Forrest. Or the time I tried to standardize Forrest as documentation tool at my clients company.... hard work! My apologies if I hurt someones feelings here. Forrest is a great tool, and hopefully PIWI can exist as a sub-project or a sisterproject at some time at apache. cheers Chris. >> ---------- >> Note for the mail archives: >> Regarding PHP in Forrest, see the following FAQs: >> >> How to use a different filename extension for output, e.g. *.php? >> http://forrest.apache.org/faq.html#output-filename-extension >> >> How to generate pages ready for serving via PHP? >> http://forrest.apache.org/faq.html#php > > > Neither of those FAQs having anything to do with the motivations of Piwi. > > Ross >