Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-forrest-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 42944 invoked from network); 27 Aug 2008 08:03:24 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 27 Aug 2008 08:03:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 23210 invoked by uid 500); 27 Aug 2008 08:03:22 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-forrest-dev-archive@forrest.apache.org Received: (qmail 23171 invoked by uid 500); 27 Aug 2008 08:03:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@forrest.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@forrest.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@forrest.apache.org Received: (qmail 23160 invoked by uid 99); 27 Aug 2008 08:03:22 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 01:03:22 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [66.111.4.25] (HELO out1.smtp.messagingengine.com) (66.111.4.25) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:02:24 +0000 Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4FC115B358 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 04:02:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 27 Aug 2008 04:02:54 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: TPrafkQYNQ3HOEZsDA6TguUJ6N3omTezd+R9UmsqrIGR 1219824173 Received: from localhost (dsl-41-216.nsw1.net.au [125.168.41.216]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 52EB42D9EC for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 04:02:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:02:50 +1000 From: David Crossley To: dev@forrest.apache.org Subject: Re: Could Forrest use Hudson? Message-ID: <20080827080250.GA28363@igg.indexgeo.com.au> References: <006201c90767$f6fa6240$0200a8c0@developer> <48B46732.90906@apache.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <48B46732.90906@apache.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Ross Gardler wrote: > Gavin wrote: > >Just wondering, > > > >Would Hudson [1] and its variety of Plugins [2] be of any use to Forrest? > > I'm not at all sure. Most of the utility of Hudson is in managing > executble code. We have some code, but it is mostly XML and XSLT. What > little code we have has almost no tests - thus making the continuous > integration efforts rather pointless. Using such tools might encourage tests to be contributed and general code improvement to happen. We do have six modules in main/java/org/apache/forrest/ and some of those are extremely important to us. We have eight plugins that have some Java code. > Finally, we don't really have a > great deal of code that depends on other code. Hmmm ... Cocoon, Avalon, Excalibur, etc. classes are mentioned a lot in the above code. > I think our test sites on the zone do a great job of alerting us to > problems at an early stage. Yes, and we could do more with those, e.g. build our "site-author" docs; add more examples to the "seed" site; etc. -David > Personally I'm -0 on this idea. Someone has to maintain it and set it up > - it won't be me ;-) > > Ross