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From "Gav...." <brightoncomput...@brightontown.com.au>
Subject RE: [jira] Commented: (FOR-605) CSS enhancements needed for MOTD area inside Table of Contents
Date Mon, 25 Jun 2007 14:02:09 GMT


> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Crossley [mailto:crossley@apache.org]
> Sent: Monday, 25 June 2007 3:29 PM
> To: dev@forrest.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [jira] Commented: (FOR-605) CSS enhancements needed for MOTD
> area inside Table of Contents
> 
> Gav.... wrote:
> > Ok, so 550036 has moved MOTD to the left and removed relative
> positioning.
> >
> > It looks much better than it did and does not overlap content.
> >
> > Where it was floated right, it caused all sorts of issues, not easily
> > fixed due to the fact that MOTD and/or surrounding content divs and
> classes
> > could be optionally added/removed at any time. There is as far as I can
> see
> > no good all round fix for this, taking browser sizes, browser versions
> and
> > screen resolutions into account. The current fix works fine for all
> those
> > but may not 'look' as good as if it were prevalent on the right side.
> 
> It is a shame. The original right-hand position was also
> trying to utilise the whitespace at the right of the
> Table Of Contents (ToC). Option #1 has even more wasted space.

Agree

> 
> > I do have one idea to improve the look and keep it where it is on the
> > left, hopefully being an agreed final fix for this MOTD position.
> >
> > I would like to propose that we create a new MOTD class in the same
> > style as .note, .warning and .fixme. We'll give it a unique color from
> > the rest but will be displayed in exactly the same way, from the left
> going
> > as far across the screen as necessary, with a title section and content
> > section the same as .note etc.
> >
> > We can call it .information with 'Information' being the default label
> for
> > the top part which can be over-ridden with your own label, the MOTD on
> the
> > current forrest index page would instead use this with a label of
> 'Latest
> > release 0.8', the content area then having '18 April 2007 Forrest-0.8
> > released: Features the Locationmap. (More)'
> 
> There is no configuration for the "label" attribute.

Sorry, mistake I meant :-

<div class="note">
<div class="label">latest 0.8 release</div>
<div class="content">'18 April 2007 Forrest-0.8
released: Features the Locationmap. (More)
</div>
</div>

but don't worry about it now ...

> Perhaps just use a concise box with slightly bigger
> border on all sides, using the existing colours.

Ok, no problem.

> 
> > I'll do a mock up in a test-sample site and attach the graphic to this
> issue
> > if you like but I'm sure you know what I mean.
> >
> > So we have choices :-
> >
> > 1. Keep it as I have changed it to currently - to the left and still the
> > traditional MOTD.
> 
> It wasn't a "traditional look". It was just a hack to fix
> the docs during the 0.7 release. No effort was spent on
> the look. I would prefer it to be more prominent CSS emphasis.
> 
> > 2. Create a new version of MOTD in the style of .note etc -- still
> keeping
> > the same way that we apply the MOTD, just the style changes.
> 
> I reckon that it would be too bulky and not stand
> out sufficiently.
> 
> > 3. Revert and try something else, but it will be difficult to get it
> right
> > and keep it right for all scenarios. The above two will work in all
> > scenarios.
> >
> > 4. Something else.
> >
> > Thoughts ?
> 
> Remember that these MOTD notes are intended to be
> very short. The content needs to also be able to
> fit into the bottom of the left-hand panel.
> 
> We are already utilising the space to the right
> of the Title for Font Size and alternate formats,
> so cannot put it there.
> 
> There are a number of pieces of "top matter".
> a) Title and its right-hand friends seem fine as-is.
> b) Optional header/abstract is shown above the ToC.
> 
> Would it be possible to have a div for this second set?
> Then perhaps include the "motd" to the right-hand side.
> It should then collapse gracefully if those two
> pieces of content are missing. FLW.

Ok, so enclose #MOTD and .abstract into a new div holding area.

.abstract left and #motd floated right, if either one is missing
make sure the other still holds its place. If both are missing
the container div will collapse.

Sounds like a plan.

Gav...

> 
> This is probably how i should have done it to
> start with, but was in a rush at the time.
> 
> -David


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