Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-forrest-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 29889 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2006 19:43:42 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 5 Aug 2006 19:43:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 20213 invoked by uid 500); 5 Aug 2006 19:43:42 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-forrest-dev-archive@forrest.apache.org Received: (qmail 20173 invoked by uid 500); 5 Aug 2006 19:43:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@forrest.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@forrest.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@forrest.apache.org Received: (qmail 20162 invoked by uid 99); 5 Aug 2006 19:43:42 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:43:42 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=10.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: domain of williamstw@gmail.com designates 64.233.182.189 as permitted sender) Received: from [64.233.182.189] (HELO nf-out-0910.google.com) (64.233.182.189) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:43:41 -0700 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id y38so426286nfb for ; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:43:19 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=P6PQNxgHaitD0tkSMkzoKVj2Xqs+/X2yCbYNfTbW6tSL+v5ID5G5I6A8SRgDEHKxkZn9RKPZCd1JkRcZLlFcYe6MUl7oJwGvMydZ2yIYTTRhYeMGhIcUYE1NjsfbkJKAtsZ/m5S/CJlTqgprw9vM6ytIn0FgR5kMszPJEJsaIx0= Received: by 10.78.122.11 with SMTP id u11mr1261942huc; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:43:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.193.10 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 12:43:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <499888440608051243j63319817ydc1cfbb16a14bf04@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 15:43:19 -0400 From: "Tim Williams" To: dev@forrest.apache.org Subject: Re: Site-author organization In-Reply-To: <1154806513.20810.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <499888440608050603t208caca1hf3747119a796d805@mail.gmail.com> <1154806513.20810.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On 8/5/06, Thorsten Scherler wrote: > El s=E1b, 05-08-2006 a las 09:03 -0400, Tim Williams escribi=F3: > > I've tried to give this new organization the benefit of the doubt and > > chalk my initial inability to find things up to it just being > > something new. Now, having lived with it for a while, I still can't > > seem to find things in here. Most of what I want turns out to be > > under the "Developers" tab. The three main headings under there use > > the most ambigious words I think: > > > > "Getting Involved" - Isn't anything under the this tab really about > > getting involved? > > > > "Resources and Infrastructure" - Resources is way too ambigious to be > > a part of a navigation scheme I think. Infrastructure also doesn't > > carry much meaning when I think of an open source project. It turns > > out that likely what most folks are looking for is really under here > > (mailing lists, code access, and issue reporting). > > > > "Best Practices and Procedures" - Again, I think it doesn't carry > > enough common concrete meaning to be a part of a navigation scheme. > > Do people know what they can expect to find when they click this? > > Nupp, it took me ages e.g. to find our docs to "Publishing Forrest > documentation" > > > > > "Project" - This is currently buried under "Getting Involveld". It > > seems to me that there is some good information that should be given a > > better spot. > > > > If I'm the only one that feels confused by the current navigation > > scheme I will get over it and eventually get used to it. If not, > > maybe we could kick around some alternative schemes on the mail list > > to improve it? > > I am as well confused. Do you have an alternative in mind? Not yet. I wanted to first see if I was solo in my being confused. I will think it through and post an alternative to the list for consideration. I'm of the opinion that folks looking at OSS and software in general have come to identify with certain keywords (code, download, mailing list, issues, etc.) and we should stick pretty close to those I think. I'll try to think through some top level navigation elements and we can go from there. --tim