Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-forrest-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 47850 invoked from network); 16 Aug 2006 13:22:03 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 16 Aug 2006 13:22:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 43305 invoked by uid 500); 16 Aug 2006 13:22:02 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-forrest-dev-archive@forrest.apache.org Received: (qmail 43148 invoked by uid 500); 16 Aug 2006 13:22:02 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@forrest.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@forrest.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@forrest.apache.org Received: (qmail 43121 invoked by uid 99); 16 Aug 2006 13:22:02 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 06:22:02 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests=MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [203.121.192.7] (HELO mail.e-wire.net.au) (203.121.192.7) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 06:22:00 -0700 Received: from developer (mail.e-wire.net.au [127.0.0.1]) by mail.e-wire.net.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k7GDLaju009795 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 21:21:37 +0800 Message-Id: <200608161321.k7GDLaju009795@mail.e-wire.net.au> Received: from 203-121-204-130.e-wire.net.au [203.121.204.130] for mail.e-wire.net.au (EHLO developer) via SMTP; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 21:21:38 +0800 From: "Gav...." 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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 21:21:36 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <20060816024127.GD17097@igg.indexgeo.com.au> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 thread-index: AcbA3YnePf+teDX4QTikxHGE6QclewAWHuMw X-BitDefender-SpamStamp: 1.1.4 049000040111ABAAAAEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQAAAI X-BitDefender-Spam: No (0) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N > -----Original Message----- > From: David Crossley [mailto:crossley@apache.org] > Sent: Wednesday, 16 August 2006 10:41 AM > To: dev@forrest.apache.org > Subject: Re: [RT] A new Forrest implementation? > > Gav.... wrote: > > > > The other side effect of being a dev - and could also apply to user too > > maybe to a certain extent, joining the 'Forrest' Dev list was the first > > Step - in reality to even begin to get beneath the engine of this baby, > > involves joining more mailing lists of other communities in order to > > understand, extend, and manage all aspects of Forrest. Being on the one > > List simply is not good enough these days if one is to familarise > yourself > > with all aspects of Forrest. > > As a result of joining Forrest, I am also on the dev lists at 'Abdera' , > > 'Cocoon' , 'Lenya' , 'Gump' , 'Chaperon' , 'Daisy' , 'XSL (mulburytech)' > , > > 'Heraldry' , 'Jira' , 'Subversion' , 'Maven'. > > > > Ok, so 3 or 4 of those are not needed, but do give a better overall > > understanding of the whole picture - and these all were '..as a result > of > > ..' > > > > And I don't mind, I'm not complaining, it is encouraged to x-commune and > get > > and give help, the point is I think that so many lists is living proof > that > > Forrest is indeed a complex beast - at least in terms of what > functionality > > is provided at the end of it. > > This is not true. Forrest developers do not need to > join other mailing lists to do advanced Forrest. > > Take me for example. Out of your list of 11 above, > i only subscribe to one: dev at cocoon, and even that > is not necessary to understand Forrest. Following their > documentation, then asking questions in context at the > Forrest lists is sufficient. > > (I do do gump, but that is not because of Forrest.) > > You will burn yourself out by joining so many. Ok, I 'perceived' this a while ago to be an unwritten requirement for a dev - in order to more fully understand the goings on under the bonnet. I don't Really contribute much to these lists but I do skim through and read those That could be relevant to Forrest, and search them occasionally when an Appropriate issue arises. I guess I don't like 'black boxes' . > > Why do you want to "manage all aspects"? Not necessarily to 'manage' but to understand more. One aspect leads to Another etc .. If I concentrated on one or two aspects I felt I would Miss out on much of what is to be done. I think though I will try to Concentrate on one aspect at a time, difficult when several things are Being worked on at once, I don't want to ignore any and so try to Help out a bit in all areas, impossible I now realise. Gav... > > -David > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.10/418 - Release Date: 8/14/2006