Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-forrest-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 17043 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2006 01:00:54 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 27 Jun 2006 01:00:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 74040 invoked by uid 500); 27 Jun 2006 01:00:53 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-forrest-dev-archive@forrest.apache.org Received: (qmail 74011 invoked by uid 500); 27 Jun 2006 01:00:52 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@forrest.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@forrest.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@forrest.apache.org Received: (qmail 74000 invoked by uid 99); 27 Jun 2006 01:00:52 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 18:00:52 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [65.77.211.84] (HELO www2.kc.aoindustries.com) (65.77.211.84) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 18:00:52 -0700 Received: from www2.kc.aoindustries.com (www2.kc.aoindustries.com [65.77.211.84]) by www2.kc.aoindustries.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k5R10U6k010279 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 20:00:30 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by www2.kc.aoindustries.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k5R10Txo010201 for dev@forrest.apache.org; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 20:00:29 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: www2.kc.aoindustries.com: indexgeo set sender to crossley@apache.org using -f Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 11:00:24 +1000 From: David Crossley To: dev@forrest.apache.org Subject: Re: future of Forrest Friday get togethers Message-ID: <20060627010024.GB13085@igg.indexgeo.com.au> References: <200606261341.k5QDf6f9014953@mail.e-wire.net.au> <1151331657.8147.23.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1151331657.8147.23.camel@localhost.localdomain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Thorsten Scherler wrote: > Gav.... escribi??: > > David Crossley wrote: > > > > > > Can we address the concern about the summaries? > > > > No single person should be responsible for the summaries as has been > > mentioned. Having more than one person at the same time working on a summary > > also has its problems. Having it in Subversion helps with that. I recall that one FF it worked well. Being the channel operator i started it, during the day both Ross(?) and i added to it. Later we refined it. http://forrest.apache.org/forrest-friday.html#op "Begin a summary text file in the forrest-events SVN. Committers should add to this during the day. Don't leave it until the end." Sure i agree it is harder for non-committers. It is difficult to send patches for a file that is changing. > > Now, where is that discussion on voluntary allocation > > of roles for certain things? This needs revisiting and come come in handy > > here. Someone, possibly different each time needs to shout up and say 'yep, > > I'll do it this time' then put it up on the website somewhere where it can > > be tinkered with later if needed. Summaries of past events should be up the > > site somewhere don't you think? They are. See the "events" link at http://forrest.apache.org/forrest-friday.html#how "The discussion will be logged, summarised, and added to our "events" SVN repository." > I am actually not sure about summaries, see above. It is all in the log > and a summary would IMO better fit as mail to the ml. The original plan is to add them to SVN and post the final to the dev@ list. It has always been added to SVN (though lacking content) and sometimes sent as email. Regarding the usefulness of summaries. Please see the conversation referred to above on Apache Incubator general@ list. Some people had some very strong points about this. It is very difficult to read an IRC log, even if you were present. We are lucky here at Forrest, our logs are small. So if people who are present go to the effort, then there is big benefit. Sending the summary to the list is important. It enables us to build upon the event and close the loop with involving the community. New threads will arise. -David