Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-forrest-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 18237 invoked from network); 24 Apr 2006 09:58:51 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 24 Apr 2006 09:58:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 39377 invoked by uid 500); 24 Apr 2006 09:58:48 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-forrest-dev-archive@forrest.apache.org Received: (qmail 39200 invoked by uid 500); 24 Apr 2006 09:58:47 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@forrest.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@forrest.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@forrest.apache.org Received: (qmail 39189 invoked by uid 99); 24 Apr 2006 09:58:47 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 02:58:47 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [212.23.3.142] (HELO rutherford.zen.co.uk) (212.23.3.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 02:58:46 -0700 Received: from [82.69.78.226] (helo=[192.168.0.2]) by rutherford.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1FXxpm-00087h-Jy for dev@forrest.apache.org; Mon, 24 Apr 2006 09:58:22 +0000 Message-ID: <444CA136.8040204@apache.org> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 10:58:14 +0100 From: Ross Gardler User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@forrest.apache.org Subject: Re: [ANN] odt plugin References: <1145228946.8514.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1064426226.20060419122341@soethe.net> <1145442605.7954.31.camel@localhost.localdomain> <184557937.20060419125428@soethe.net> <1145445650.7954.59.camel@localhost.localdomain> <57921117.20060419134918@soethe.net> <20060421010056.GD21454@igg.indexgeo.com.au> <1733849134.20060421065757@soethe.net> <20060424051549.GB10171@igg.indexgeo.com.au> In-Reply-To: <20060424051549.GB10171@igg.indexgeo.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-Rutherford-IP: [82.69.78.226] X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N David Crossley wrote: > Ferdinand Soethe wrote: > >>David Crossley wrote: >> >> >>>Heads up. An alarm bell was triggered by the >>>word "OASIS". Please ensure that ASF ideals are met. >> >>Hi David, >> >>I found this in the list. Is this good enough for us? > > > Don't ask me. As i suggested, contact legal-discuss@ > (any committer can post). > http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html#foundation-legal > We don't want to spread any FUD here on forrest-dev > so best go there with direct questions. > > The proponents of this ODT plugin would need to determine > how we might be affected, do we need to redistribute > any of their resources, are we "implementing" the standard, > etc. For reference. I have already had an official response from legal-discuss@a.o regarding the inclusion of binaries from OOo (which will be required if we use the OOo as a server method of reading the files - this is technical - no need for details in this thread). We cannot include OOo binaries in an ASF project. I do not have an official answer with respect to the implementation of the odt standards. If we can implement them, we need to check that we can also bundle the DTD's. In the original OOo plugin I did not bundle them because the situation was clearer (it was sun licensed then), but if we are able to bundle them it would be better. This still needs to be checked with legal-discuss@a.o ... [leaving the useful links from Davids mail so we don't lose them] > Search legal-discuss first, for example i just did a > quick search and found these: > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/200509.mbox/%3C20050917005219.GA4013@mail26a.sbc-webhosting.com%3E > I know that they are talking about "RF on RAND Terms" > but section 10.2.1 also affects "RF on Limited Terms". > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/200502.mbox/%3c20050224072908.L27225@taz3.hyperreal.org%3e > The whole thread is useful. > > I note that Cliff's draft policy doesn't even mention OASIS. > http://people.apache.org/~cliffs/3party.html > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/200603.mbox/%3c6DBF6C5C-3DE9-4511-923A-343037F72827@apache.org%3e Ross