Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-forrest-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 45232 invoked from network); 21 Apr 2006 08:44:51 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 21 Apr 2006 08:44:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 77798 invoked by uid 500); 21 Apr 2006 08:44:50 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-forrest-dev-archive@forrest.apache.org Received: (qmail 77749 invoked by uid 500); 21 Apr 2006 08:44:49 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@forrest.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@forrest.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@forrest.apache.org Received: (qmail 77738 invoked by uid 99); 21 Apr 2006 08:44:49 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 01:44:49 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [80.67.18.16] (HELO smtprelay04.ispgateway.de) (80.67.18.16) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 01:44:49 -0700 Received: (qmail 23079 invoked from network); 21 Apr 2006 08:44:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO dhcp-1-13.aldebaran.de) (305514@[212.202.166.77]) (envelope-sender ) by smtprelay04.ispgateway.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 21 Apr 2006 08:44:27 -0000 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:44:14 +0200 From: Ferdinand Soethe X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <188865991.20060421104414@soethe.net> To: dev@forrest.apache.org Subject: Re: [FYI] Google Summer of Code 2006 In-Reply-To: <44489789.5000605@apache.org> References: <1145434391.7954.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <529096B8-4231-430C-94AB-C4F45C28B782@gmail.com> <1941952534.20060419190706@soethe.net> <44473D8C.2020504@pcotech.fr> <1145525219.7933.59.camel@localhost.localdomain> <44475663.6050802@apache.org> <08B247A7-CC6D-4DD3-A333-84162BD578D6@mac.com> <639945259.20060420220627@soethe.net> <1092379055.20060421064410@soethe.net> <44489789.5000605@apache.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Ross Gardler wrote: > 1) Does the student think they can do it? If they don't they will not apply. That's the one I worry about. > 2) Do we really expect a student to be able to do it in the time > allowed? We have to provide a report to Google saying whether the > objectives were met and whether the student should receive their money. > The decision about the money is the mentors alone, but it does reflect > negatively on the mentor and the student. This one should not be a problem if we defind the additional formats as optional second phases. Problem is: how can we phrase the proposal in a way that doesn't scare people off while still motivating them to aim for this second step. Any ideas. Also, Ross, how do you judge the amaount of work involved? Is it realistic to get all of that done? I have my doubts ... -- Ferdinand Soethe