Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-forrest-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 4144 invoked from network); 11 Nov 2005 04:25:17 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 11 Nov 2005 04:25:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 55783 invoked by uid 500); 11 Nov 2005 04:25:16 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-forrest-dev-archive@forrest.apache.org Received: (qmail 55729 invoked by uid 500); 11 Nov 2005 04:25:16 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@forrest.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@forrest.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@forrest.apache.org Received: (qmail 55718 invoked by uid 99); 11 Nov 2005 04:25:15 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 20:25:15 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [65.77.211.84] (HELO www2.kc.aoindustries.com) (65.77.211.84) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 20:25:08 -0800 Received: from fo2.kc.aoindustries.com (www2.kc.aoindustries.com [65.77.211.84]) by www2.kc.aoindustries.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jAB4OnlB016498 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:24:53 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by fo2.kc.aoindustries.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id jAB4OnuI016421 for dev@forrest.apache.org; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:24:49 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: fo2.kc.aoindustries.com: indexgeo set sender to crossley@apache.org using -f Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 15:24:28 +1100 From: David Crossley To: dev@forrest.apache.org Subject: Re: Forrest Friday for November (was Re: LaTeX output plugin) Message-ID: <20051111042428.GA394@igg.indexgeo.com.au> References: <278b419a0511040308m1bbf8092h1ccf3d7f207a75e3@mail.gmail.com> <436B7C9F.9000901@cc.hut.fi> <278b419a0511040727o93051fxe3d9c15613166dd4@mail.gmail.com> <535272350.20051108085849@soethe.net> <43706E1F.9060302@apache.org> <004a01c5e470$c72ecb90$0400a8c0@madaboutipv6> <43722335.90808@apache.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43722335.90808@apache.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N 11 November starting at 06:00 Greenwich Mean Time. See the calendar for your time zone. We will use conventional IRC. The main communication medium is still the dev mailing list. The channel name is "for-n". The topic is to finish locationmap, clean up Jira, prioritise issues for next release, more xhtml2 dev. See below. So the start time is 2 hours away. -David Ross Gardler wrote: > Gav.... wrote: > >From: "Ross Gardler" > >| Ferdinand Soethe wrote: > >| > > >| > Does it make sense to base all transformations on XHTML2 (out soon to > >| > be meta-format) rather than document13? > >| > >| I would love to say yes, but then the danger is not actually getting the > >| move to XHTML2 done. We keep agreeing it should be done (for around 2 > >| years now), but we seem to be failing in actually tackling the job > >| because it is such a major task. > >| > >| At present I am thinking the only way it will ever happen is if we have > >| a complete rewrite of Forrest from the bottom up. > >| > >| Personally, I think the only way it is ever going to happen, with the > >| current method of working, is if an individual just does it. How long it > >| will be before one of us has that kind of time is anyones guess. > >| > >| Therefore, I (that is, me as an individual, this is not necessarily the > >| view of the community) would recommend using XDoc for fear of waiting > >| forever to make XHTML2 usable. > > > >Well, maybe this can be part of the discussion for Forrest Friday which > >happens > >to be THIS FRIDAY people, so whos going to make it for any amount of time > >and what should the topic of the day be. > > > >My opinion, keep on with http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-184 > >issues and > >keep XHTML2 as the main focus along with the usual Jira cleanup. > > > >I will be there at various points in time. > > Thanks for bringing this up, sorry I've not been able to respond quicker > and help develop a plan for FF. > > I will present for some of the time. My own focus will be on finishing > off the locationmap stuff (FOR-200) which is a precursor to the views > integration which, in turn is a precursor to the XHTML2 move. > > I'll also be spending some time sorting out the issue tracker to > prioritise for a 0.8 release - maybe I'll even fix a couple of issues! > > It would be great if we can see the tasks in FOR-184 (XHTML2) fleshed > out by those who understand how the views 2 stuff impacts them. > > Ross