Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-forrest-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 78893 invoked from network); 19 Aug 2005 08:43:47 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 19 Aug 2005 08:43:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 52117 invoked by uid 500); 19 Aug 2005 08:43:46 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-forrest-dev-archive@forrest.apache.org Received: (qmail 52056 invoked by uid 500); 19 Aug 2005 08:43:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@forrest.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@forrest.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@forrest.apache.org Received: (qmail 52043 invoked by uid 99); 19 Aug 2005 08:43:46 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 01:43:45 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [217.199.181.91] (HELO ns3.wkwyw.net) (217.199.181.91) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Fri, 19 Aug 2005 01:44:04 -0700 Received: (qmail 1991 invoked from network); 19 Aug 2005 08:43:45 -0000 Received: from 82-69-78-226.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (HELO ?192.168.0.2?) (82.69.78.226) by ns3.wkwyw.net with SMTP; 19 Aug 2005 08:43:45 -0000 Message-ID: <43059BB9.2060001@apache.org> Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 09:43:37 +0100 From: Ross Gardler User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@forrest.apache.org Subject: Re: Defining Views Terminology References: <42EC0DDE.5050202@apache.org> <20050818182704.GA20429@igg.indexgeo.com.au> In-Reply-To: <20050818182704.GA20429@igg.indexgeo.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N David Crossley wrote: > Ross Gardler wrote: > >>[NOTE: this is my summary of my interpretation of *part* of the >>discussion at the views workshop at Apachecon. In other words I have >>tried to represent the views of those present, but may have got some >>bits wrong - this is a document for discussion not a final document. >> >>You can get the audio from that workshop at >>http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/forrest/events/apachecon-eu-2005/workshop.ogg?rev=225666&view=log >>] >> >>What *is* a forrest:view? >>------------------------- >> >>Some of the confusion over Views seems to have come about because they >>do much more than just replace skins. They add a whole new feature set. >>We therefore decided to define some terminology to help clarify the >>situation. > > > The sooner that we get this settled the better. +1, especially since Thorsten is refactoring things now. I'm not going to comment on the thread just yet since I started it, I'd like to hear other views first. I will add one more point though. We are using the "ft:" namespace identifier for templates, this is the same identifier used for forms-templates in Cocoon. We should think about a different identifier (I know we can change it if there is ever a clash, but wouldn't it be better to plan forward there is already an occasion where forms are being used in an experimental Forrest site). Ross