Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-forrest-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 88400 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2005 12:43:50 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 5 Aug 2005 12:43:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 30956 invoked by uid 500); 5 Aug 2005 12:43:47 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-forrest-dev-archive@forrest.apache.org Received: (qmail 30860 invoked by uid 500); 5 Aug 2005 12:43:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@forrest.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@forrest.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@forrest.apache.org Received: (qmail 30742 invoked by uid 99); 5 Aug 2005 12:43:45 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 05 Aug 2005 05:43:45 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [217.199.181.91] (HELO ns3.wkwyw.net) (217.199.181.91) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Fri, 05 Aug 2005 05:43:35 -0700 Received: (qmail 24505 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2005 12:43:46 -0000 Received: from 82-69-78-226.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (HELO ?192.168.0.2?) (82.69.78.226) by ns3.wkwyw.net with SMTP; 5 Aug 2005 12:43:46 -0000 Message-ID: <42F35EF6.2010101@apache.org> Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 13:43:34 +0100 From: Ross Gardler User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@forrest.apache.org Subject: Re: simplified docbook plugin References: <42EFA4E2.9000807@apache.org> <20050803034508.E8B9010FB2A9@asf.osuosl.org> <20050803054226.GA24974@igpb.indexgeo.com> <42F09266.8070001@apache.org> <20050803232341.GA27209@igpb.indexgeo.com> <42F28F2B.60709@apache.org> <20050805010933.GA3844@igg.indexgeo.com.au> In-Reply-To: <20050805010933.GA3844@igg.indexgeo.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N David Crossley wrote: > Ross Gardler wrote: > >>David Crossley wrote: >> >>>Are you just talking about the stylesheet or the DTDs too? >>>The trouble with the DTDs is that they will make this >>>plugin, and our SVN trunk, very cumbersome. How many >>>versions of Full DocBook and Simplified DocBook will >>>we support? ... > The issue is more about efficiency. When the xml parser > encounters a document type declaration in an xml instance, > then it must resolve the DTD and everything that is thereby > referenced. So if you don't provide local copies, then there > are network trips on every parse. > > We could not provide them, and just give people > documentation about how to configure their own. > In fact we already have that. > > The trouble is that they don't. Then poor Forrest > would appear awfully slow to them. How about we enhance the plugin install mechanism to offer to download an additional package of DTD's. So the install process would be: - set forrest.properties - forrest - approve plugin licenses (to be done) - specify required DTD's - install selected DTD's This way we can tell users, "these DTD's are xMb, are you sure you want to install them? If you don't install them then Forrest will only work whilst you are online and will not perform as fast" Ross