Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-forrest-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 29122 invoked from network); 26 Aug 2005 08:25:09 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 26 Aug 2005 08:25:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 12802 invoked by uid 500); 26 Aug 2005 08:25:08 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-forrest-dev-archive@forrest.apache.org Received: (qmail 12760 invoked by uid 500); 26 Aug 2005 08:25:07 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@forrest.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@forrest.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@forrest.apache.org Received: (qmail 12743 invoked by uid 99); 26 Aug 2005 08:25:07 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 26 Aug 2005 01:25:07 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=10.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [203.121.192.6] (HELO mail.e-wire.net.au) (203.121.192.6) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 26 Aug 2005 01:25:23 -0700 Received: from webmail.e-wire.net.au (mail.e-wire.net.au [203.121.192.6]) by mail.e-wire.net.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j7Q8GVLJ005895; Fri, 26 Aug 2005 16:16:32 +0800 Received: from 203.59.114.106 (SquirrelMail authenticated user br_gavmc); by webmail.e-wire.net.au with HTTP; Fri, 26 Aug 2005 16:16:32 +0800 (WST) Message-ID: <11181.203.59.114.106.1125044192.squirrel@203.59.114.106> In-Reply-To: <329110840.20050826072800@soethe.net> References: <329110840.20050826072800@soethe.net> Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 16:16:32 +0800 (WST) Subject: Re: [Proposal] Development process and a stable trunk From: br_gavmc@e-wire.net.au To: "Ferdinand Soethe" Cc: dev@forrest.apache.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Just to sort of answer one part of this at the moment :- > > I have an uncomfortable gut feeling with the current status of our > pre-release version and I'd like your feedback on these concerns and > my suggestions to change our process. > > My concerns with the current situation: > > - in the last few month a number of exciting major projects > (location maps, views, i18n, change of cocoon ...)and a number of > smaller ones have been developed (which is good!) > > - most of them have not been finished to the point of being releasable > and (so it seems to me) will not be for considerable time so it > seems like we won't be able to release quickly without a major clean-up > effort (which I consider bad). Along with CSS , I am also working on some parts of i18n, mainly to get it working to ensure a site with it enabled is still valid. Apart from that AFAIK it works, only that it is not implemented for the whole site, only parts of it. David has hinted that this will be some time away before the rest of it gets implemented, but the base of it will be there and working and should not get in the way of a release. (I just need the penny to drop and I'll have a patch shortly!) Gav...