Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-forrest-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 7583 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2005 18:48:03 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 10 Jun 2005 18:48:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 60766 invoked by uid 500); 10 Jun 2005 18:48:02 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-forrest-dev-archive@forrest.apache.org Received: (qmail 60743 invoked by uid 500); 10 Jun 2005 18:48:02 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@forrest.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@forrest.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@forrest.apache.org Received: (qmail 60730 invoked by uid 99); 10 Jun 2005 18:48:02 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_BY_IP,RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: domain of cjxaf-forrest-dev-1@m.gmane.org designates 80.91.229.2 as permitted sender) Received: from main.gmane.org (HELO ciao.gmane.org) (80.91.229.2) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 11:47:59 -0700 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DgoST-00028m-QY for dev@forrest.apache.org; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:42:22 +0200 Received: from 216.115.178.26 ([216.115.178.26]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:42:21 +0200 Received: from gregor by 216.115.178.26 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 20:42:21 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: dev@forrest.apache.org From: "Gregor J. Rothfuss" Subject: Re: [RT] IRC vs. Skype Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:46:14 -0400 Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: <1118422982.5085.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> <42A9D9F0.7040501@apache.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.115.178.26 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en In-Reply-To: <42A9D9F0.7040501@apache.org> Sender: news X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Ross Gardler wrote: > I completely agree that no design discussion should be carried out on > anthing other than EMail. > > I agree that we should frown upon the use of any communication that is > not carried out via email, but do not agree that it is possible to > always follow that rule. > > When we meet at ApacheCon will we have to sit in silence and communicate > via IRC because some community memebers will not be present? (obvioulsy > you are not suggesting this, I'm merely trying to illustrate that > sometimes rules have to be broken) > > I will not vote against the creation of an IRC channel (as long as the > bot is in place), but I do not want anyone to think that a lack of a > vote against implies that I think it is a good idea, it only means that > it *may* be useful one day, just as Skype is useful sometimes too. some experience from lenya: the irc channel is more a watering hole where people lurk and banter than have design decisions. it has helped community members to know each other better. i do not think it poses a danger of fragmentation. i actually would be happier if the cocoon and lenya channels would merge (the traffic is not very high ,and the cross-pollination would be good). same for forrest as for skype, i have used it in one on one situations to get a fellow dev set up with eclipse, for instance. i do not think it is useful for groups.