Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-forrest-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 11344 invoked from network); 18 May 2005 10:48:02 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 18 May 2005 10:48:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 55118 invoked by uid 500); 18 May 2005 10:47:40 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-forrest-dev-archive@forrest.apache.org Received: (qmail 55069 invoked by uid 500); 18 May 2005 10:47:40 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@forrest.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@forrest.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@forrest.apache.org Received: (qmail 54968 invoked by uid 99); 18 May 2005 10:47:38 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from ns3.wkwyw.net (HELO ns3.wkwyw.net) (217.199.181.91) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with SMTP; Wed, 18 May 2005 03:47:36 -0700 Received: (qmail 17870 invoked from network); 18 May 2005 10:40:44 -0000 Received: from 82-69-78-226.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (HELO ?192.168.0.4?) (82.69.78.226) by ns3.wkwyw.net with SMTP; 18 May 2005 10:40:44 -0000 Message-ID: <428B1BA8.8060405@apache.org> Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 11:40:40 +0100 From: Ross Gardler User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@forrest.apache.org Subject: Re: Solving FOR-470 and getting rid of xdocs now? References: <1331654960.20050517120618@soethe.net> <1116343272.13322.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <428A3245.7040202@apache.org> In-Reply-To: <428A3245.7040202@apache.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Juan Jose Pablos wrote: >>On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 12:06 +0200, Ferdinand Soethe wrote: > > >>Looking at the details, I keep wondering if it wouldn't save us much >>work to get rid of x-docs and fix FOR-470 in one step. > > > In order to get rid of x-docs, we need to create the stylesheet for > xdocs --> xhtml so, I recond that this needs to be done first... I think (hope) ferdinand was talking about the xdocs directory rather than the DTD. The Xdocs directory now contains all processes data regardless of it's format (sxw, html, doc etc.) so the name is misleading. Changing the internal format to XHTML is much more than just writing a stylesheet from xdocs -> XHTML. We also need to change all the skins which currently work with XDoc. The existing pipelines would all have to change as well, we would need to add the new transformation into it (if we use this approach). We need to plan this move carefully. However, I am -1, even on getting rid of the xdocs directory. It is a big job. We should have all our docs conform to the "correct" way of doing things, that means changing all the documentation, all the plugins, site-author, fresh-site etc. Then there are the names of the propoeries we use in the sitemaps, they would no longert make sense (project:content.xdocs} vs {project:content). And we would have to work out how to handle the situation where we want raw, unprocessed data from files that would normally be processed, such as html and xml. Lets not underestimate the work involved with these two tasks. -1 on even thinking about it before 0.7. Ross