From dev-return-16471-apmail-forrest-dev-archive=forrest.apache.org@forrest.apache.org Tue May 31 09:19:24 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-forrest-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 74533 invoked from network); 31 May 2005 09:19:23 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 31 May 2005 09:19:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 9133 invoked by uid 500); 31 May 2005 09:19:22 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-forrest-dev-archive@forrest.apache.org Received: (qmail 9082 invoked by uid 500); 31 May 2005 09:19:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@forrest.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@forrest.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@forrest.apache.org Received: (qmail 9068 invoked by uid 99); 31 May 2005 09:19:21 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=10.0 tests=PLING_QUERY X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from anna.aranex-provider.de (HELO anna.aranex-provider.de) (62.111.75.2) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Tue, 31 May 2005 02:19:17 -0700 Received: from [192.168.0.34] (p54A211AE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.162.17.174]) by anna.aranex-provider.de (8.12.5-180903/8.12.3) with ESMTP id j4V9IvPE052627 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 11:18:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from johannes.schaefer@uidesign.de) Message-ID: <429C2C00.3080906@uidesign.de> Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 11:18:56 +0200 From: Johannes Schaefer User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@forrest.apache.org Subject: Re: Meetup at ApacheCon? --> Room nearby! References: <1114686793.5107.34.camel@localhost.localdomain> <621076676.20050428133434@soethe.net> <4270CE02.2000608@apache.org> <20050523114650.GA23761@igg.indexgeo.com.au> <1116852175.8543.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4291DD00.8050009@apache.org> <429AC191.4060401@uidesign.de> <71549353.20050530113338@soethe.net> <429AF211.4090400@apache.org> <20050531051905.GA10956@igg.indexgeo.com.au> In-Reply-To: <20050531051905.GA10956@igg.indexgeo.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N David Crossley schrieb: > Ross Gardler wrote: > >>Ferdinand Soethe wrote: >> >>>Johannes Schaefer wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Good news: we can have a room at the FHT for the >>>>evenings, thanks to Prof. Hauber. >>> >>>Hey this is great news. Thanks to Johannes and Peter for solving this >>>problem for us. >>> >>> >>>>We'll need to decide when we'll meet. >>> >>>OK, I suggest to have >>> >>>- the general Forrest Meetup on Wednesday evening >>> (the day of our Forrest presentation) so that people can come and >>> ask more questions ... >>> >>>- the views-workshop on Thursday so that people won't have to hang >>> around for all three days of the conference. >>> >>>With Johannes' mail saying "evenings" (plural) I'd gratefully take the >>>offered room for both evenings to not exclude people. If that is not >>>stretching Peter's hospitality too far? >>> >>>Would 19:00 hrs be good time to start? >>> >>>I'm off-line till Wednesday. Since some people need to arrange for >>>their travel we should decide soon. So how about taking the time to >>>comment until Wednesday so we can finalize the arrangements this week? >> >>I like your proposal, if it needs to change to accommodate other people >>that is fine by me. I will be in Germany for about a week in total. Most >>of it I will not be in Stuttgart however, I will ensure I am present >>when there is anything "Forrest" going on. >> >> >>>(Below I'll include the agenda for both meetings from previous mail.) >>> >>>-- >>>Ferdinand Soethe >>> >>>We General Exchange on Forrest >>> >>> an opportunity for Forrest users and developers to meet and have an >>> open exchange about Forrest. If we have enough people committed to >>> participating, we could/should we announce this meeting in our >>> Forrest session for interested people to join us. >> >>It is possible that we will not have many non-Forrest people taking this >>up. If this is the case I would like to use this time to do some forward >>planning and bug fixing. Will there be net access in this room? >> >>I see this as being compatible with an "open exchange" with potential >>users and devs as we can ask what peoples use cases are and discuss >>whether Forrest should/would be considered for that use case. In cases >>where Forrest seems appropriate we can look at what changes need to be made. >> >> >>>Th Workshop Forrest Views >>> >>> with Thorsten explaining the concept and practical details of his >>> Forrest-Views and plenty of opportunity to ask questions. >>> >>> My hope is that I will have a chance to understand Views after that >>> which means that we will address people with a limited >>> understanding of Forrest and Plug-ins. >>> >>> Duration: ~ 2 hrs? >> >>I propose no changes at all to this part of the agenda. Views is key to >>the next release of Forrest and will, I think, finally see us moving to >>a subset of XHTML2 as the internal. This should be a purely design >>focused meeting. > > > I agree with all of those aims. However i propose a different > schedule so that we fit in better with the ApacheCon events, > especially the Welcoming Reception and the official Birds of a > Feather (BoF) sessions. > http://apachecon.com/2005/EU/html/sessions.html > > ------------------------------------------------ > Event: Apache Committers Hackathon > > Date: Tuesday > > Location: ApacheCon > > Topics: Meet other committers. Open discussion. Bug fixing. > > Audience: Committers only. > > ------------------------------------------------ > Event: Apache Forrest project workshop > > Date: Tuesday 19:00 until whenever. > > Location: The HfT room. > > Topics: Views, XHTML internal format, project planning. > > Audience: Anyone is welcome, but discussions will be technical > and will assume knowledge of Forrest. We will certainly answer > questions to ensure that people understand background. However > the main aim is an intensive project design session. I will have a presentation about Forrest in German that day (Tue, 19th July), also at the HfT, also starting at 19h. Ferdinand wanted to go there, too. This will last for about 1-1.5 hours. I'll check back about the room (I asked for the conference days 20-22, which was OK by Peter). 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