Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-forrest-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 76830 invoked from network); 20 Apr 2005 20:27:10 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 2005 20:27:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 15268 invoked by uid 500); 20 Apr 2005 20:27:17 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-forrest-dev-archive@forrest.apache.org Received: (qmail 15087 invoked by uid 500); 20 Apr 2005 20:27:16 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@forrest.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@forrest.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@forrest.apache.org Received: (qmail 15074 invoked by uid 99); 20 Apr 2005 20:27:16 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=10.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from eelpout.stat.ufl.edu (HELO eelpout.stat.ufl.edu) (128.227.141.35) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:27:16 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost.stat.ufl.edu [127.0.0.1]) by eelpout.stat.ufl.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F880C00D3 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:27:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from eelpout.stat.ufl.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (eelpout [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16126-14 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:27:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (sedge.stat.ufl.edu [128.227.141.182]) by eelpout.stat.ufl.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CB6FC00CE for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:27:03 -0400 (EDT) To: dev@forrest.apache.org Subject: Re: describe Forrest in 50 words References: <20050418010331.GA21572@igg.indexgeo.com.au> <42658A34.9000105@apache.org> <20050420025207.GC23861@igg.indexgeo.com.au> <87zmvtvhg1.fsf@stat.ufl.edu> <42668D2B.6010501@apache.org> <87wtqxmere.fsf@stat.ufl.edu> <4266AF9C.6050005@apache.org> From: Brett Presnell Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:27:03 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4266AF9C.6050005@apache.org> (Ross Gardler's message of "Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:38:04 +0100") Message-ID: <87sm1lmbxk.fsf@stat.ufl.edu> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at stat.ufl.edu X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Ross Gardler writes: >> >>>Apache Forrest is a standards-based documentation framework based >>>on Apache Cocoon. Forrest emphasizes separation of presentation >>>and content through a plugin architecture for transforming and >>>aggregating a variety of input sources into one or more output >>>formats. This enables Forrest to create a unified document collection >>>that can be hosted dynamically or generated from the command-line and >>>deployed with an automated robot. >> Getting better, but I don't like the last sentence because it sounds >> like a document collection generated from the command line would be >> deployed with an automated robot, and I think you mean this the other >> way around > > Nope, that is exactly what I mean. See > http://forrest.apache.org/proposal-asf-forrestbot.html (we have > documentation on teh forrestbot but it seems to have disppeared from > the website in our recent reogranisation). Hmmm, so robot != tomcat after all, and instead robot == forrestbot? In my own usage I was using forrest with tomcat for development, but for deployment I would generate a static version, and so I identified "generated from the command-line" with static. Forrestbot never really entered my conciousness. But, considering my usage as an example, isn't it true that the robot is a somewhat separate issue from static versus dynamic. The current wording makes it sound like the only options are dynamically hosted or deployed with a robot. I think that's what was indirectly causing my confusion, since I knew there was another possibility. -- Brett Presnell Department of Statistics University of Florida http://www.stat.ufl.edu/~presnell/ "We don't think that the popularity of an error makes it the truth." -- Richard Stallman () ascii ribbon campaign - against html mail /\ - against microsoft attachments