Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-forrest-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 63130 invoked from network); 20 Apr 2005 19:38:20 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 20 Apr 2005 19:38:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 36012 invoked by uid 500); 20 Apr 2005 19:38:19 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-forrest-dev-archive@forrest.apache.org Received: (qmail 35979 invoked by uid 500); 20 Apr 2005 19:38:19 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@forrest.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@forrest.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@forrest.apache.org Received: (qmail 35963 invoked by uid 99); 20 Apr 2005 19:38:18 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from ns3.wkwyw.net (HELO ns3.wkwyw.net) (217.199.181.91) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with SMTP; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:38:18 -0700 Received: (qmail 11127 invoked from network); 20 Apr 2005 19:38:10 -0000 Received: from 82-69-78-226.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (HELO ?192.168.0.4?) (82.69.78.226) by ns3.wkwyw.net with SMTP; 20 Apr 2005 19:38:10 -0000 Message-ID: <4266AF9C.6050005@apache.org> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:38:04 +0100 From: Ross Gardler User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@forrest.apache.org Subject: Re: describe Forrest in 50 words References: <20050418010331.GA21572@igg.indexgeo.com.au> <42658A34.9000105@apache.org> <20050420025207.GC23861@igg.indexgeo.com.au> <87zmvtvhg1.fsf@stat.ufl.edu> <42668D2B.6010501@apache.org> <87wtqxmere.fsf@stat.ufl.edu> In-Reply-To: <87wtqxmere.fsf@stat.ufl.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Brett Presnell wrote: > Ross Gardler writes: > >>Apache Forrest is a standards-based documentation framework based >>on Apache Cocoon. Forrest emphasizes separation of presentation >>and content through a plugin architecture for transforming and >>aggregating a variety of input sources into one or more output >>formats. This enables Forrest to create a unified document collection >>that can be hosted dynamically or generated from the command-line and >>deployed with an automated robot. > > > Getting better, but I don't like the last sentence because it sounds > like a document collection generated from the command line would be > deployed with an automated robot, and I think you mean this the other > way around Nope, that is exactly what I mean. See http://forrest.apache.org/proposal-asf-forrestbot.html (we have documentation on teh forrestbot but it seems to have disppeared from the website in our recent reogranisation). > Actually, I'm not sure that most potential users having a first look > at forrest would know what you mean by "robot", and they might even > find it off-putting. It's ok, but is there some other word that would > be less mysterious and still serve the purpose? Well if you, as a user, find it mysterious that's a problem. Furthermore, if you, as a user with some knowledge of Forrest, can misinterpret it then there is clearly a problem with the last sentence :-) How about replacing "automated robot" with "automated publishing application"? Increases our word count by one but if we get more clarity as a result I think it is worth it. > Anyway, I'll probably check out now. Good luck, and thanks to all of > you for your work on forrest. Thanks for your feedback, it is extremely valuable to us. We hope to see more of you. Ross